Trump’s Speech Was Quiet — And Quietly Radical

[tommyjo]

Reviews of President Trump’s first address to Congress on Tuesday night seem to be converging around a single theme: It was Trump at his most subdued. “Trump Softens Tone in Outlining Goals,” read the lead headline on The New York Times homepage Wednesday morning. The Washington Post commented on Trump’s “milder tone”; The Wall Street Journal said the address “turned from the ominous language” of his campaign speeches; Politico went with “Trump tries on normal.”

And they’re right. In tone and style, Trump’s speech was relatively normal, at least judging it against his earlier efforts. He opened his address by condemning recent threats against Jewish community centers and the shooting last week of two Indian immigrants in Kansas City, something he had been criticized for not doing earlier. He called for unity and cross-party cooperation, and stayed away from attacks on the press or his political opponents. Apart from a few banal ad-libs, he largely stuck to his script.

But beneath the gentler tone, Trump’s speech — a State of the Union address in all but name — was quietly radical. He called for a complete overhaul of U.S. policy on taxes, trade, immigration and health care. He proposed spending billions more on defense and as much as $1 trillion on infrastructure. And he promised a new version of his controversial — and currently stalled — travel ban on visitors from seven majority Muslim countries.

Trump’s speech included few policy details and only one genuine surprise: a call to return to a system that accepts or rejects immigrants based on their skills and education. Most of his other proposals were either standard Republican orthodoxy or were familiar from Trump’s campaign. But proposals don’t have to be new to be dramatic. The policies Trump laid out Tuesday night would change the country and its global relationship in profound ways.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-speech-was-quiet-and-quietly-radical/

 

[littlelady]

Nite, nite.

 

[Kev_Russell]

Of course we now know why it was quiet"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...09f_story.html

Then-Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) spoke twice last year with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Justice Department officials said, encounters he did not disclose when asked about possible contacts between members of President Trump’s campaign and representatives of Moscow during Sessions’s confirmation hearing to become attorney general.

One of the meetings was a private conversation between Sessions and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak that took place in September in the senator’s office, at the height of what U.S. intelligence officials say was a Russian cyber campaign to upend the U.S. presidential race.

The previously undisclosed discussions could fuel new congressional calls for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate Russia’s alleged role in the 2016 presidential election. As attorney general, Sessions oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, which have been leading investigations into Russian meddling and any links to Trump’s associates. He has so far resisted calls to recuse himself.

 

[GURPS]

a call to return to a system that accepts or rejects immigrants based on their skills and education. ]

Outstanding !!!

Hopefully that includes a Medical Screening .... we needn't be importing sick people ...

 

[Kev_Russell]

Outstanding !!!

Hopefully that includes a Medical Screening .... we needn't be importing sick people ...

When can we start exporting mentally disturbed psychopaths such as yourself?

 

[SamSpade]

Outstanding !!!

No kidding.

If we can only reasonably absorb so many into our nation, it makes sense that we stop the flow of poor, unskilled labor.
We already have a lot of that and if we need it, we can make use of it through work permits.

Wouldn't it be great to import a million doctors instead of a million tomato pickers?

 

[Gilligan]

When can we start exporting mentally disturbed psychopaths such as yourself?

Nothing says "mentally disturbed" quite so much as being banned from a forum and sneaking back in, time after time after time after time. What kind of sick fawk does that??

 

[PsyOps]

But beneath the gentler tone, Trump’s speech — a State of the Union address in all but name — was quietly radical. He called for a complete overhaul of U.S. policy on taxes, trade, immigration and health care. He proposed spending billions more on defense and as much as $1 trillion on infrastructure. And he promised a new version of his controversial — and currently stalled — travel ban on visitors from seven majority Muslim countries.

Someone please explain to me what's radical about any of this? I mean in light of Obamacare, single payer (Obama's ultimate goal), encouraging federal law to be ignored, constantly condemning our police forces, raising taxes, debt (you know, that unpatriotic thing?) beyond what the eyes can see, a weakened military, encouraging racist groups like BLM to cast ALL white people as racist, ignoring national security with private servers, an environment of political correctness that has nearly every American guessing what might offend someone, and a desire to 'fundamentally transform America'... nothing radical here, right?

You people on the left have gotten too used to having your way for the past 8 years that you've forgotten what's normal in this country.

 

[Larry Gude]

The radical part of his speech and the part no one has commented on so far is his stunningly anti-constitutional proclamation that... "we are all created by the same god."

I was with him for awhile but that blew the entire thing. That is, clearly, a suggestion of gummint favoritism of a particular faith and that is as un and anti constitutional as it gets.

 

[PsyOps]

The radical part of his speech and the part no one has commented on so far is his stunningly anti-constitutional proclamation that... "we are all created by the same god."

I was with him for awhile but that blew the entire thing. That is, clearly, a suggestion of gummint favoritism of a particular faith and that is as un and anti constitutional as it gets.

So, saying this established which religion as the official government religion in which we all must follow?

Is it really any different than every president that ever said "And may God bless this United States of the America"?

 

[Hijinx]

So, saying this established which religion as the official government religion in which we all must follow?

Is it really any different than every president that ever said "And may God bless this United States of the America"?

Larry is just tossing out crap so he can argue ..
Don't bite.

 

[Larry Gude]

So, saying this established which religion as the official government religion in which we all must follow?

Is it really any different than every president that ever said "And may God bless this United States of the America"?

Predictable yet still good question.


To say "May _______ bless us all" is not at all like saying "we ARE ALL CREATED by the SAME god".

For one, it's a declarative statement vs. a request.

For two, no one says "May the ONE god bless America"

This is bad, way bad and ANYONE for religious freedom, the separation of church and state were founded on, needs to start pushing back on this guy for the sake of religious freedom. ONLY a secular state can guarantee religious freedom. Period.

 

[Larry Gude]

Larry is just tossing out crap so he can argue ..
Don't bite.

It's not crap. It's clear as anyone who cares to open their damn ears and listen could be.

 

[PsyOps]

Predictable yet still good question.


To say "May _______ bless us all" is not at all like saying "we ARE ALL CREATED by the SAME god".

For one, it's a declarative statement vs. a request.

For two, no one says "May the ONE god bless America"

This is bad, way bad and ANYONE for religious freedom, the separation of church and state were founded on, needs to start pushing back on this guy for the sake of religious freedom. ONLY a secular state can guarantee religious freedom. Period.

If you are a Christian, you believe everyone was created by God-Yahweh. If you are a Jew, the same. If you are a Muslim... you get the point. This, by no means, violates the 1st in establishing a religion or religion.

 

[Gilligan]

Predictable yet still good question.


To say "May _______ bless us all" is not at all like saying "we ARE ALL CREATED by the SAME god".

For one, it's a declarative statement vs. a request.

For two, no one says "May the ONE god bless America"

This is bad, way bad and ANYONE for religious freedom, the separation of church and state were founded on, needs to start pushing back on this guy for the sake of religious freedom. ONLY a secular state can guarantee religious freedom. Period.

I'm not a religious person...not even a little bit....yet I completely fail to comprehend why your hair is on fire over that.

 

[Larry Gude]

I'm not a religious person...not even a little bit....yet I completely fail to comprehend why your hair is on fire over that.

Do you believe in the first amendment?
Do you believe in the separation of church and state?
Do you think President Trump's declaration, in a joint session of congress, not some speech to some religious group somewhere in BF Kansas, of ONE god violates that separation?

I think it, clearly, does.

 

[GURPS]

Nothing says "mentally disturbed" quite so much as being banned from a forum and sneaking back in, time after time after time after time. What kind of sick fawk does that??

don't forget internet stalking ...

 

[GURPS]

The radical part of his speech and the part no one has commented on so far is his stunningly anti-constitutional proclamation that... "we are all created by the same god."

I was with him for awhile but that blew the entire thing. That is, clearly, a suggestion of gummint favoritism of a particular faith and that is as un and anti constitutional as it gets.

wow that is a LONG Stretch ..... how exactly is the Comment a Violation of the Separation of Church and State :shrug:

 

[Larry Gude]

If you are a Christian, you believe everyone was created by God-Yahweh. If you are a Jew, the same. If you are a Muslim... you get the point. This, by no means, violates the 1st in establishing a religion or religion.

What would you say had a Muslim President of the United States said 'We are all created by Allah" or a secularist President said "We are all created by the same swamp muck"? Or can I guess your response? He made an establishment statement in a joint session of congress, not some remark to Westerboro Baptist that no one else heard.

It's unconstitutional.

 

[PsyOps]

Do you believe in the first amendment?
Do you believe in the separation of church and state?
Do you think President Trump's declaration, in a joint session of congress, not some speech to some religious group somewhere in BF Kansas, of ONE god violates that separation?

I think it, clearly, does.

No, it doesn't. He didn't declare which god did he? Did he also declare that we all must render ourselves to this god or we will be punish under some new law?

When a president does this, then we all must worry. Simply making a statement about how he believes we were created is just that... a statement. It's not an official declaration that establishes anything for Americans.