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    Quote Originally Posted by Restitution View Post
    Back in the day, if a kid was bullied and decided to fight back... parents would be called into the office and it would be discussed and handled. Now, police are involved, lawyers can get involved, and snowflakes are damaged.
    I was getting seriously bullied in 4th grade (mid 70s) by a held-back kid twice my size. Happened for months. My dad told me I needed let him have it once and he'd let up. I wailed "are you trying to get me KILLED?" But he was serious, and I finally took his advice one day. Promptly got suspended for three days for breaking the no-fighting rule (where were the teachers for months?!), but I was never bothered again by any of the kids. Worth every second of those three days.

    I do have to wonder how it would go down now. Probably about the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clem72 View Post
    But maybe I just grew up in a tougher area, and the sissified bullies you talk about that run away at the first sign of resistance are really the majority. I doubt it though.
    You bring up a good point. My school had sissified bullies who picked on weaker kids because they could and wouldn't dare take on their equal. A good shot in the head usually settled them down. But hardcore bullies won't hesitate to #### you up, or even kill you.

    Kwillia brought up a point that I was trying to avoid but there it is. The black kids are many times the tormentors, and nothing happens to them because RACISM!!! If the bullying allegations are true, the parents of this kid who killed himself need to get a good lawyer and press charges against the school for allowing this to happen. They bust back some kid who writes a violent short story in creative writing class, but then let some psychotic kid run rampant because he's black and they are "racially sensitive".

    They need to knock that crap off and treat everyone equal, regardless of race, and the only way they'll do it is if parents put pressure on them and hit them where it hurts - the budget. They go on and on about "zero tolerance" but clearly they do not know what that means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    You bring up a good point. My school had sissified bullies who picked on weaker kids because they could and wouldn't dare take on their equal. A good shot in the head usually settled them down. But hardcore bullies won't hesitate to #### you up, or even kill you.

    Kwillia brought up a point that I was trying to avoid but there it is. The black kids are many times the tormentors, and nothing happens to them because RACISM!!! If the bullying allegations are true, the parents of this kid who killed himself need to get a good lawyer and press charges against the school for allowing this to happen. They bust back some kid who writes a violent short story in creative writing class, but then let some psychotic kid run rampant because he's black and they are "racially sensitive".

    They need to knock that crap off and treat everyone equal, regardless of race, and the only way they'll do it is if parents put pressure on them and hit them where it hurts - the budget. They go on and on about "zero tolerance" but clearly they do not know what that means.
    Nailed it. The fact that black kids run the gang activity at Spring Ridge is exactly why the sissies that run the county school system will not do anything. It's not rocket science.
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    I think another issue is the fact that parents run the word "Bullying" to the administration without even taking into consideration that it is THEIR child that is the bully.
    The kids have figured this out as well.
    If Bully Boy tells Mommy that Johnny hates me and picks on me BEFORE Johnny can tell his mother what Bully Boy is doing, then the Bully's mom gets to the administrator first, the table is set for the victim to have to prove who is picking on whom.

    Sometimes is a matter of which side gets heard first. I like to think the administrators know what is really happening, but that may be hard to prove. (Especially if Johnny begs his mom NOT to go to the school).

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    I read thru this thread last night and was starting to comment when I was interrupted
    I'm happy I was because I think I was going to do exactly what I'm going to say is wrong.

    DON'T equate the bullying "back in the day" with what is considered bullying today.
    I'm not in the school, at the bus stop or on the street, but I don't think that's where the majority of the problem lies.
    You use to be able to almost identify the bully in school or on the block, it was typically a kid, a male, who had some "issues" in their personal life, family, home type issues.

    Not saying that's gone away, but now you have social media and everybody has an opinion and feels they have a right to share that opinion with the world. Even if that opinion concerns what another child is wearing, how they look, smell, what they eat, ad naseaum

    That child can be male or female, white or black, rich or poor. Once they start their circle of friends joins in. The victim is confronted with this 24/7 because it's not just in school, it's on the interwebz.

    The bill of rights gives us the freedom to speak freely without government reprisal. What we have forgotten is the affect that speech can have on others. The irony in this is that some of the same people doing the bullying will be the first to complain about how offended, hurt and fearful they are when someone expresses an opinion they don't agree with - not one directed at them, but simply an idea they are against.

    This goes back on the parents who have raised these pissant snowflakes, those who are both quick to judge, yet intolerant of an opposing view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BernieP View Post
    That child can be male or female, white or black, rich or poor. Once they start their circle of friends joins in. The victim is confronted with this 24/7 because it's not just in school, it's on the interwebz.
    I have heard this argument too. "BUT... the interwebz!" And I think it is truly garbage.

    Back in the day, EVERYONE in the school knew who the bully was picking on. EVERYONE in the school had their opinions on people. They didn't need the internet for that! People actually TALKED TO EACH OTHER!

    Do you honestly think that kids from other schools/counties are bussing into the area to bully kids? How exactly is the internet making it worse than it was years ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Restitution View Post
    I have heard this argument too. "BUT... the interwebz!" And I think it is truly garbage.

    Back in the day, EVERYONE in the school knew who the bully was picking on. EVERYONE in the school had their opinions on people. They didn't need the internet for that! People actually TALKED TO EACH OTHER!

    Do you honestly think that kids from other schools/counties are bussing into the area to bully kids? How exactly is the internet making it worse than it was years ago?
    you are truly clueless. The bullying is no longer limited to a physical confrontation, it's done over the internet - social media
    How about you give us your real name, then we will make all sorts of derogatory comments about you on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snap Chat.... That way when you show up to work you co-workers can give you a sideways look and snicker.

    That's the most prevalent form of bullying today. I take a picture of you, a compromising picture, and then post it.
    It could be making fun of your clothing, hair cut, size, shape. Then all my "friends" and their "friends" chime in, thinking it's just in fun.

    That does not preclude the old fashion bully.

    BTW, your nose is hideous, you should do something about that beak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    You bring up a good point. My school had sissified bullies who picked on weaker kids because they could and wouldn't dare take on their equal. A good shot in the head usually settled them down. But hardcore bullies won't hesitate to #### you up, or even kill you.

    Kwillia brought up a point that I was trying to avoid but there it is. The black kids are many times the tormentors, and nothing happens to them because RACISM!!! If the bullying allegations are true, the parents of this kid who killed himself need to get a good lawyer and press charges against the school for allowing this to happen. They bust back some kid who writes a violent short story in creative writing class, but then let some psychotic kid run rampant because he's black and they are "racially sensitive".

    They need to knock that crap off and treat everyone equal, regardless of race, and the only way they'll do it is if parents put pressure on them and hit them where it hurts - the budget. They go on and on about "zero tolerance" but clearly they do not know what that means.

    Here's the thing, and I'm not saying you'd do it, but you know as well as I do that if the schools would intervene in off hours bullying the same people who are now complaining about it not being done would raise the roof about "gub'mint interference in private bidness".
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthBeachPerso View Post
    Here's the thing, and I'm not saying you'd do it, but you know as well as I do that if the schools would intervene in off hours bullying the same people who are now complaining about it not being done would raise the roof about "gub'mint interference in private bidness".
    I'm just talking about what happens in school or on school grounds. Of course there's nothing the school can do about what happens on the outside. But that is my understanding, that this kid was being tormented in school - or was that not the case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BernieP View Post
    you are truly clueless. The bullying is no longer limited to a physical confrontation, it's done over the internet - social media
    How about you give us your real name, then we will make all sorts of derogatory comments about you on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snap Chat.... That way when you show up to work you co-workers can give you a sideways look and snicker.

    That's the most prevalent form of bullying today. I take a picture of you, a compromising picture, and then post it.
    It could be making fun of your clothing, hair cut, size, shape. Then all my "friends" and their "friends" chime in, thinking it's just in fun.

    That does not preclude the old fashion bully.

    BTW, your nose is hideous, you should do something about that beak.
    And everything you said above differs from my point HOW EXACTLY???

    Not at all! Bullies were bullies then.... they are now. People KNOW why you were being bullied then... just like they do now.

    What these kids are reading on the internet is not anything they do not probably already know. So... how exactly is it intensifying the problem?

    BTW... I am 100% sure YOU are far more removed from school-aged than I am. Try to act it huh.....
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