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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    I'm just talking about what happens in school or on school grounds. Of course there's nothing the school can do about what happens on the outside. But that is my understanding, that this kid was being tormented in school - or was that not the case?

    I have no clue since I don't care enough to keep up with Facebook gossip. But as Bernie mentioned, with social media it doesn't stop at the last bell any more.

    Even in-school fights are now starting on Facebook/SnapChat/Face Time, etc. now in the majority of cases. #### starts on them last night and gets carried over to the next morning and you have a dozen kids, in many cases girls, rolling around on the floor beating the Hell out of each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    You bring up a good point. My school had sissified bullies who picked on weaker kids because they could and wouldn't dare take on their equal. A good shot in the head usually settled them down. But hardcore bullies won't hesitate to #### you up, or even kill you.

    Kwillia brought up a point that I was trying to avoid but there it is. The black kids are many times the tormentors, and nothing happens to them because RACISM!!! If the bullying allegations are true, the parents of this kid who killed himself need to get a good lawyer and press charges against the school for allowing this to happen. They bust back some kid who writes a violent short story in creative writing class, but then let some psychotic kid run rampant because he's black and they are "racially sensitive".

    They need to knock that crap off and treat everyone equal, regardless of race, and the only way they'll do it is if parents put pressure on them and hit them where it hurts - the budget. They go on and on about "zero tolerance" but clearly they do not know what that means.
    I can't speak for Spring Ridge but when my son was going to school at Leonardtown Middle School he got suspended for "bullying" he told another student "he was black like a bear" When I had a chance to speak to my son when he got home that day I learned that the kid he referenced as being "black as a bear" had taunted him in the lunch room in front of all his friends and other students saying he was "a fagot who sucked d*ck" so of course next day I'm on the phone w/ admin trying to figure out why the hell my son was suspended...apparently because my son is not in fact gay that type of taunting is not considered bullying...ummm ok! It ended up getting a lot worse. That same kid and his friends a week or so later went to a teacher and said that my son was dealing drugs so as per the rules they had to call my son in to the office search his bags and his person. They called me AFTER the fact...of course there were no drugs its just a tactic these #######s use now a days...but no my son was the bully cause he called some one black like a bear
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    As stated, it's a fact that schools take way too much into consideration when handing out punishment/suspension. Kids with little to no parent involvement or chronic problem kids are given a longer leash than a kid who acts out less. My kids ride the bus and are the first ones on in the a.m. and the last to get off in the p.m. When I asked the school system and my county commissioner about this, the reason given is they need to get the problem kids from the bad neighborhood off the bus first, and pick them up last in the am. The poor bus driver is in her 70s and they can't find a replacement to take the route because of this bad neighborhood. My county commissioner stepped in and they changed the route very little for about 2 weeks, and this year it's back to the same route. Way too many "meetings" and a lot of talk and no action in the public school system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovinmaryland View Post
    I can't speak for Spring Ridge but when my son was going to school at Leonardtown Middle School he got suspended for "bullying" he told another student "he was black like a bear" When I had a chance to speak to my son when he got home that day I learned that the kid he referenced as being "black as a bear" had taunted him in the lunch room in front of all his friends and other students saying he was "a fagot who sucked d*ck" so of course next day I'm on the phone w/ admin trying to figure out why the hell my son was suspended...apparently because my son is not in fact gay that type of taunting is not considered bullying...ummm ok! It ended up getting a lot worse. That same kid and his friends a week or so later went to a teacher and said that my son was dealing drugs so as per the rules they had to call my son in to the office search his bags and his person. They called me AFTER the fact...of course there were no drugs its just a tactic these #######s use now a days...but no my son was the bully cause he called some one black like a bear
    When my son was at Lettie Dent, a kid pulled his weiner out on the school bus, School Administration and a Sheriff's Dept Detective had a meeting with a the kids and then brought each kid separately in a office for their investigation.
    I believe the next time the school will call all parents involved before a conversation with a kid when law enforcement is involved.
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    When I was in 7th grade I was 12 years old and I was bullied by a fellow 7th grader who happened to be 16 years old. I was still a child and this "kid" was a young man, had muscles, a moustache etc. He beat on me a lot, still it was only one person. With the internet it makes it much more like everyone is piling on, kids that would not do anything in an actual physical bullying situation like I had happen have no problem jumping on and adding to the problems.

    "Star Wars Kid" from the late 90's was one of the first examples of posting an unflattering video of a kid on the internet that went viral and really upset this kid.

    I saw my bully years later when I was about 21 years old, the difference was he stayed about 5'10" but I had grown to 6'5" at that moment he realized what a mistake he had made almost 10 years earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Restitution View Post
    I have heard this argument too. "BUT... the interwebz!" And I think it is truly garbage.

    Back in the day, EVERYONE in the school knew who the bully was picking on. EVERYONE in the school had their opinions on people. They didn't need the internet for that! People actually TALKED TO EACH OTHER!

    Do you honestly think that kids from other schools/counties are bussing into the area to bully kids? How exactly is the internet making it worse than it was years ago?
    Evidently, the FLOTUS thinks internet bullying is a crisis since she chose it as one of her platforms. Do you recall Rosie making disparaging on line remarks about Barron? It's not just kids that use social media to pick on others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseRed View Post
    Evidently, the FLOTUS thinks internet bullying is a crisis since she chose it as one of her platforms. Do you recall Rosie making disparaging on line remarks about Barron? It's not just kids that use social media to pick on others.
    Evidently they are still living "back in the day". People, particularly young people, like to use the relative anonymity of the internet to "attack" people. As an adult we are more immune to stupid crap people say, but kids are more sensitive to what their peers think.
    As long as adults keep thinking "back in the day", the problem won't be addressed.

    That doesn't mean that physical abuse doesn't exist. The politically correct state of Maryland is at fault for the "no fault" fight punishment.
    It's not a joke, or myth, if your child is jumped in school, they too will be disciplined the same as the others. The schools don't won't to be accused of prejudice when it comes to handing out punishment. In fact, they don't want to hand out punishment because it makes their statistics look bad. Talk about the legal system being a revolving door, in some cases the teachers are told to not even send a chronic offender to the office because it's pointless.

    But I think parents should be aware of what their children are doing online. They should be aware of how their children speak about their peers. As I said, free speech, is not a blank check to disparage and smear another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    You bring up a good point. My school had sissified bullies who picked on weaker kids because they could and wouldn't dare take on their equal. A good shot in the head usually settled them down. But hardcore bullies won't hesitate to #### you up, or even kill you.

    Kwillia brought up a point that I was trying to avoid but there it is. The black kids are many times the tormentors, and nothing happens to them because RACISM!!! If the bullying allegations are true, the parents of this kid who killed himself need to get a good lawyer and press charges against the school for allowing this to happen. They bust back some kid who writes a violent short story in creative writing class, but then let some psychotic kid run rampant because he's black and they are "racially sensitive".

    They need to knock that crap off and treat everyone equal, regardless of race, and the only way they'll do it is if parents put pressure on them and hit them where it hurts - the budget. They go on and on about "zero tolerance" but clearly they do not know what that means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeoplesElbow View Post
    I saw my bully years later when I was about 21 years old, the difference was he stayed about 5'10" but I had grown to 6'5" at that moment he realized what a mistake he had made almost 10 years earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glhs837 View Post
    http://www.somdnews.com/enterprise/n...5d41548c0.html

    Of course, it's login, but you can guess the rest....
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    “We know the suspensions are not working,” Charles Ridgell, director of student services, said at the Feb. 23 NAACP St. Mary’s branch meeting held at the Lexington Park library. “It gives the students a nice vacation and in many cases but it doesn’t always solve their behavior. Many times they are more challenging.” St. Mary’s rate of suspension is “not drastically different” from the national rates, he said.

    Suspension should be a two-fold deal: not only punish the kid, but get him out of the way so the other kids can learn, not dread coming to school and having to deal with this person. So Mr. Ridgell, suspensions DO work, depending on what result you're looking for. If you use suspension to raise someone else's kid, you're right - they don't work. But if you use them to facilitate a learning environment for the rest of the student population, they work perfectly.

    What is with these people that we are allowing to educate our children and run our schools?? The correct answer to NAACP tards who want to bitch about black kids getting in trouble is, "Then tell little Sh*theadica to stop being an ahole."

    Duh.
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