Obama Advisor Rhodes Is Wrong

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Obama Advisor Rhodes Is Wrong: The President Can Order A Wiretap, And Why Trump May Have The Last Laugh


Following Trump's stunning allegation that Obama wiretapped the Trump Tower in October of 2016, prior to the presidential election, which may or may not have been sourced from a Breitbart story, numerous Democrats and media pundits have come out with scathing accusations that Trump is either mentally disturbed, or simply has no idea what he is talking about.

The best example of this came from Ben Rhodes, a former senior adviser to President Obama in his role as deputy National Security Advisor, who slammed Trump's accusation, insisting that "No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you." He also said "only a liar" could make the case, as Trump suggested, that Obama wire tapped Trump Tower ahead of the election.

It would appear, however, that Rhodes is wrong, especially as pertains to matters of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance, and its associated FISA court, under which the alleged wiretap of Donald Trump would have been granted, as it pertained specifically to Trump's alleged illicit interactions with Russian entities.

In Chapter 36 of Title 50 of the US Code *War and National Defense", Subchapter 1, Section 1802, we read the following:

(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—
(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or
(ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;

(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and

(C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801(h) of this title; and
if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.

While (B) seems to contradict the underlying permissive nature of Section 1802 as it involves a United States person, what the Snowden affair has demonstrated all too clearly, is how frequently the NSA and FISA court would make US citizens collateral damage. To be sure, many pointed out the fact that Fox News correspondent James Rosen was notoriously wiretapped in 2013 when the DOJ was investigating government leaks. The Associated Press was also infamously wiretapped in relation to the same investigation.


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tommyjo

New Member
Ok dumbass here you go:

zerohedge...written for dumbasses who can read....

So according to the portion of code that you copied and pasted this statement is absolutely true as it relates to the idiotic accusation by our illustrious President and as it relates:
"No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you."
Why?

Because it is backed up by this:

the electronic surveillance is solely directed at
(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers

and this

there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party

So the President cannot by himself order the communications of a US person to be wiretapped without a warrant. That is a really easy conclusion to be drawn from your asinine source...but you have to be able to read.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
So, just to be clear -according to that, they may not wiretap any phone if an American is on it?
And they may with a warrant, if they can show that illicit goings on are happening WITH Americans?

So this is reminding me of the bee that couldn't fly - according to the rules, they shouldn't have anything on anyone on Trump's staff.
But they did, according to the New York Times.

So how does that work?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
So the President cannot by himself ....

- fish in a barrel :killingme

did you miss the part where the law says - AG at the direction of the President



(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
So can potus order it or not?

And, whether he was legally allowed to or not, it appears not only did he, but he released the information some time ago to friendly press.

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