The Words We Use About Donald Trump

nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
" That’s crazy! That is the instant, intuitive, and, one might think, only possible response of a sane person to a week’s worth of tweets from President Donald Trump. Only crazy people make reckless charges, without any plausible foundation, and then simply shrug and sit on them. Take one recent example: “How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!” This charge is mindboggling, not least for being self-exploding. For Obama to have wiretapped Trump (put aside that that’s not, technically speaking, what is done any longer; the President may have been moved by vague memories of how the feds brought down John Gotti), Obama would have needed his own private team of plumbers to break into, or hack the systems of, Trump Tower. And no one in his right mind suggests that Obama ever had such a team.

The most obvious alternative would be that it was done by the F.B.I., in response to a court order spurred by genuine suspicion of grave wrongdoing. In that scenario, Trump would be asserting that someone in the Department of Justice had grounds for such suspicion, sufficient to convince a judge. But he couldn’t possibly have intended to say that. All this suggests that he may not be capable of the normal logic of normal people, of any kind of political bent. And that, folks, would be crazy.

Of course, we are quickly counselled never to say this, in part because calling Trump crazy would be, in plain English, an insult to crazy people. Diagnosis should be left to those with expertise in it; mental illness is not a category to be used casually to describe those whose behavior we find squalid or even abhorrent. And calling people crazy, to take it to the next dimension, is what totalitarian societies do when they want to lock dissidents away.

Understood. But it is still important, for the sake of sanity, to assert that there is a meaningful sense of the word “crazy” that doesn’t demand medical diagnosis. It arises, instead, from an intelligent description of the normal workings of human minds and human relationships. And it’s important to preserve that sense for common usage, because we often need to distinguish between normal people we disagree with or even think may be actively doing wrong—say, taking health insurance away from millions of people in blind pursuit of an ideological passion—and people who are dangerous because they have passed beyond the ability to actively reason with evidence about the world. "

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Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Only crazy people make reckless charges, without any plausible foundation, and then simply shrug and sit on them.

That's referring to Pelosi, Chuckie Schumer and the rest of the "The Russians Are Coming" batsh!t crazy crew, right?
 

tommyjo

New Member
That's referring to Pelosi, Chuckie Schumer and the rest of the "The Russians Are Coming" batsh!t crazy crew, right?

So...what you are saying...is this:

1. What appears to be the entire intelligence and legal enforcement apparatus of the United States govt is convinced that the Russians interfered in our recent Presidential election.

2. The ultimate winner of the election continually proclaimed that no one from the campaign had any contact whatsoever with any Russians or anyone related to the Russian govt....except the campaign manager who was replaced...except the appointed National Security Advisor who resigned after 24 days (or was he fired?? that story keeps changing too)...except the host of other campaign advisors--at least of which went to Russian during the campaign to meet with Russian officials--but that wasn't with the knowledge of the campaign--no wait that story has changed too now he did go at the behest of or with the knowledge of the campaign...let's not forget our new Sec State who received the Order of Lenin or something like that from Mr. Putin--our Sec State who doesn't even know when his counterparts from other countries are visiting---who hasn't answered a single question or made a public comment since the day after his Senate confirmation.

SO...what you are really saying--with your Ivy League Lite educated brain--is that you see nothing in all this that concerns you? You see nothing that makes you think...wtf is going on here?

Setting your Ivy League Lite education aside...isn't your pre-disposition to believe every conspiracy theory smacking you in the back of the head? Either your Ivy League Lite education or your conspiracy theory belief system should be telling you that there is more to this story.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
So...what you are saying...is this:

1. What appears to be the entire intelligence and legal enforcement apparatus of the United States govt is convinced that the Russians interfered in our recent Presidential election.

2. The ultimate winner of the election continually proclaimed that no one from the campaign had any contact whatsoever with any Russians or anyone related to the Russian govt....except the campaign manager who was replaced...except the appointed National Security Advisor who resigned after 24 days (or was he fired?? that story keeps changing too)...except the host of other campaign advisors--at least of which went to Russian during the campaign to meet with Russian officials--but that wasn't with the knowledge of the campaign--no wait that story has changed too now he did go at the behest of or with the knowledge of the campaign...let's not forget our new Sec State who received the Order of Lenin or something like that from Mr. Putin--our Sec State who doesn't even know when his counterparts from other countries are visiting---who hasn't answered a single question or made a public comment since the day after his Senate confirmation.

SO...what you are really saying--with your Ivy League Lite educated brain--is that you see nothing in all this that concerns you? You see nothing that makes you think...wtf is going on here?

Setting your Ivy League Lite education aside...isn't your pre-disposition to believe every conspiracy theory smacking you in the back of the head? Either your Ivy League Lite education or your conspiracy theory belief system should be telling you that there is more to this story.

Please tell me what evidence has been presented that proves what you batsh1t crazy people have brought forth as truth.

A man cannot be proven guilty by innuendo.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
So...what you are saying...is this:

1. What appears to be the entire intelligence and legal enforcement apparatus of the United States govt is convinced that the Russians interfered in our recent Presidential election.

you of course have some documentation to back this up, not anonymous leaks from unnamed officials


[yeah right] :lmao:
 
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