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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    Wanna bet it happened on a curve on Robinson Rd?
    How about this, every year it seems that Fireman / LE somewhere in southern Maryland drive like there hair is on fire and crash and never do make it to the fire or accident along with destroying hundreds of thousands of the taxpayers money. It's reckless and easily avoided.
    They drive way to carelessly and fast. How many time do you get passed by a Trooper or Deputy doing 80+ mph and then they turn into Wawa,
    I would guess they are touching cotton maybe???
    I would be very surprised if the gentleman driving tanker 5 was at fault for this accident. Years of experience and definitely no cowboy, the type of person you want volunteering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    I would be very surprised if the gentleman driving tanker 5 was at fault for this accident. Years of experience and definitely no cowboy, the type of person you want volunteering.
    I guess with all the experience he has, he must've missed that retread starting to separate when he did his truck inspection Saturday morning when his shift started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    I guess with all the experience he has, he must've missed that retread starting to separate when he did his truck inspection Saturday morning when his shift started.
    A blowout of a single tire on a drive-axle shouldn't turn a truck turtle.

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    Your preaching to the choir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    Your preaching to the choir.
    This tanker was probably top-heavy from all the brass in the drivers compartment.

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    I have to say I'm shocked and disappointed in most of the people commenting on this thread. We just recently moved down here and if this is how you treat emergency personnel I don't want to know how you treat the other people around you. I'm glad I'm not friends or related to any of you that are saying awful things.
    Two people were hurt in this accident and that is where the comments should be focused, sending thoughts and prayers to them and those affected by the fire that they were responding to.
    Shame on all of you that have NO FACTS nor any idea of how the driver drives or what kind of person he is. You just use your internet muscles to run your mouth and make assumptions based on NOTHING!
    I hope you make up the minority of people in this area and that we made a good decision bringing our kids to this area. I know they have to experience all walks of life to make it in the real world but this isn't the first post I've seen nonsense like this in recent months.
    Prayers to all of those affected by this accident and fire and prayers to those that need a conscience check.

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    There is plenty of facts, how about the fact that the water truck is upside down after driving through a curve in the road, I don't care what tire lost its tread it will not cause a truck to go off road and roll over unless the truck was traveling at excessive speed.
    And we all know that a huge portion of the fine volunteers drive there own and county equipment way to fast for no other reason than to get to the " Call " 27 seconds faster.
    How much damage happened because this water truck never arrived at the " Call " ?
    The Southern County's should have gone to a paid fire department decades ago and put this driving with " Your Hair on Fire " to sleep forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    There is plenty of facts, how about the fact that the water truck is upside down after driving through a curve in the road, I don't care what tire lost its tread it will not cause a truck to go off road and roll over unless the truck was traveling at excessive speed.
    And we all know that a huge portion of the fine volunteers drive there own and county equipment way to fast for no other reason than to get to the " Call " 27 seconds faster.
    How much damage happened because this water truck never arrived at the " Call " ?
    The Southern County's should have gone to a paid fire department decades ago and put this driving with " Your Hair on Fire " to sleep forever.
    What makes paid personnel safer?
    I know the Unions say it is so....but they suck the County coffers dry......the expense of that accident wouldn't touch the pension of five Union personnel .........
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    How is it that you don't see how crazy you sound when you do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    The Southern County's should have gone to a paid fire department decades ago and put this driving with " Your Hair on Fire " to sleep forever.
    Have you ever seen how the career firefighters drive? How many accidents have the career fire departments had in comparison to the volunteer fire departments?

    Are you ready for the increase in your taxes to support a career (paid) fire department. Here are a few statistics for you. The average firefighter in Maryland makes about $50,000.00 in salary per year. To have a career fire department there are minimum standards for manning the fire apparatus. Staffing would be 4 firefighters per shift per station minimum. When I say minimum, that is for 1 piece of apparatus, either an engine (pumper), ladder truck or a rescue squad (not an ambulance). Some stations would need more than 4 firefighters since they have additional apparatus that is required on an incident but we will go with the minimum for now. You would need 4 shifts for proper coverage and to allow proper time off between shifts and to meet the FSLA work week requirements. So let's see where we are, 4 firefighters per station that's $200,000.00 per station per shift. 4 shifts per station would bring it to $800,000.00. Now with 6 fire stations in the county, that would bring the total in salaries to $4,800,000.00. We haven't figured in for benefits (medical, retirement contributions etc) Also there would be sick and vacation days involved where someone would be paid overtime for the coverage. This does not include salaries for the additional personnel assigned to ambulances or firefighters assigned to the ladder trucks or rescue squads. Each of the 6 departments either has a ladder truck or rescue squad so you can add that into your equation and your final costs well over 10 million dollars a year for salaries. Then you have to figure in the cost of maintenance for the apparatus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyTwoCents View Post
    I have to say I'm shocked and disappointed in most of the people commenting on this thread. We just recently moved down here and if this is how you treat emergency personnel I don't want to know how you treat the other people around you.
    I think we treat our emergency personnel quite well. Most down here appreciate all the work and time our volunteers invest into providing fire protection and EMS across such a large area It's just that anyone with his eyes open will notice that some of those first responders don't extend the same courtesy to the nice equipment our taxes and donations buy them. Volunteer ambulances that take turns with a rear wheel lifted, fire apparatus driven in an unsafe manner, a firefighter who runs over the sheriff etc. Look at southern MD as a midsize city of 250k. In this 'city', in the last 4 years we had 3 firetrucks rolled on their side or roof. 1 in St Marys, 1 in Charles and now 1 in Calvert. Several firefighters have been injured in the process and a lot of equipment destroyed. Not to mention the fact that a firetruck on its side in a ditch won't be able to respond to the emergency it was called out for. Had this number of incidents happened in a career department in said 'virtual city' of 250k there would be firings at the command level.

    Yes, they need to let off the gas. An extra 10mph around a turn or through an intersection won't get you to the fireground more than a couple of seconds faster.


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