Marriage Partners

newnature

New Member
Let this mind be in you, which is in Jesus our Savior. Jesus wasn’t thinking, “I’m superior!” “I’m superior!” “I think I’ll start throwing my weight around and bossing those for whom I’m dying!” What about it ladies? What if your believing husband made himself of no reputation, humbled himself, and loved you as Jesus loved? Would that not be a grand thing? Would that not motivate her to serve you as you’re serving her? What if that believing wife made herself of reputation, humbled herself, and loved her husband in the way that all believers are to love the Savior? How about it, husbands? Would that not also be grand? What we’re doing is waiting upon the other to begin the process...each side making their service to the other side contingent upon the service of the other to them. It’s an amazing thing that for believers and that’s the only people to whom Paul is writing, there is a judgment seat of the Savior that husbands will not be judged by how well their wives responded. It will be how well they led. Wives will not be judged as to whether their husbands were leading correctly, but in their role in serving the husband. Someone might say that Paul doesn’t tell the wife to love her husband, in the first place, and that this is a directive he gives to the husband. Paul tells the wife to reverence her husband. (Titus 2:3-4) When it comes to doctrine concerning the age of grace, Paul was in a leadership position. Did Paul consider himself to be above the saints of this dispensation? Did he consider himself to be superior to those who he was leading? Ephesians 3:8 answers that, quite well. Ephesians chapter 5 has to do with two marriage partners, both being desirous of aligning themselves with God and his Word rightly divided, serving one another in the manner in which God intended they are to serve one another. When it comes to the husband being the head of the wife, it has to do with the husband aligning himself to serve his wife in the manner that God intended him to serve her. The same is true when it comes to the wife and her role in the marriage relationship.
 

seekeroftruth

Well-Known Member
Let this mind be in you, which is in Jesus our Savior. Jesus wasn’t thinking, “I’m superior!” “I’m superior!” “I think I’ll start throwing my weight around and bossing those for whom I’m dying!” What about it ladies? What if your believing husband made himself of no reputation, humbled himself, and loved you as Jesus loved? Would that not be a grand thing? Would that not motivate her to serve you as you’re serving her? What if that believing wife made herself of reputation, humbled herself, and loved her husband in the way that all believers are to love the Savior? How about it, husbands? Would that not also be grand? What we’re doing is waiting upon the other to begin the process...each side making their service to the other side contingent upon the service of the other to them. It’s an amazing thing that for believers and that’s the only people to whom Paul is writing, there is a judgment seat of the Savior that husbands will not be judged by how well their wives responded. It will be how well they led. Wives will not be judged as to whether their husbands were leading correctly, but in their role in serving the husband. Someone might say that Paul doesn’t tell the wife to love her husband, in the first place, and that this is a directive he gives to the husband. Paul tells the wife to reverence her husband. (Titus 2:3-4) When it comes to doctrine concerning the age of grace, Paul was in a leadership position. Did Paul consider himself to be above the saints of this dispensation? Did he consider himself to be superior to those who he was leading? Ephesians 3:8 answers that, quite well. Ephesians chapter 5 has to do with two marriage partners, both being desirous of aligning themselves with God and his Word rightly divided, serving one another in the manner in which God intended they are to serve one another. When it comes to the husband being the head of the wife, it has to do with the husband aligning himself to serve his wife in the manner that God intended him to serve her. The same is true when it comes to the wife and her role in the marriage relationship.


Let's be a little realistic here.... If you read the whole story.... then you'd know that the reason Paul doesn't call for the wives to love their husbands is the key.

God instructed Adam and Eve to "be fruitful and multiply". Jesus came from a long line of womanizers. It was commonplace for men to have children by multiple wives, their slaves, as well as concubines.

I recall a movie from the 60's about a girl who trained her fiance by using a puppy training manual.

When I was a kid in Sunday School back in the early 60's there was a considerable amount of discussion about inter-faith relationships.

Now that I'm older.... I can see the importance. It must be really difficult to manage a home where one believes in Christ as a Savior, while the other either sees Him as a prophet or a fake.

When a woman has faith.... it's important that both have faith.... it might take time and prayer in some cases....

In the long run though.... if anyone, wife or husband would try to destroy the faith... run....

I believe it takes Faith to make it....

:coffee:
 

newnature

New Member
Let's be a little realistic here.... If you read the whole story.... then you'd know that the reason Paul doesn't call for the wives to love their husbands is the key.

God instructed Adam and Eve to "be fruitful and multiply". Jesus came from a long line of womanizers. It was commonplace for men to have children by multiple wives, their slaves, as well as concubines.

I recall a movie from the 60's about a girl who trained her fiance by using a puppy training manual.

When I was a kid in Sunday School back in the early 60's there was a considerable amount of discussion about inter-faith relationships.

Now that I'm older.... I can see the importance. It must be really difficult to manage a home where one believes in Christ as a Savior, while the other either sees Him as a prophet or a fake.

When a woman has faith.... it's important that both have faith.... it might take time and prayer in some cases....

In the long run though.... if anyone, wife or husband would try to destroy the faith... run....

I believe it takes Faith to make it....

:coffee:

The earthly union of husbands and wives today are to be a reflection of the new oneness identification that all believers have with the Savior. God allows for no space to come between believers and his son. And, that’s how closely husbands and wives should safeguard their union with one another. Two minds working together being in unison. The fact is that most marriage partners don’t begin on the same page to start with. There are many areas of life, from a counselor’s perspective where marriages come apart at the seams...areas that those anticipating marriage should discuss before a marriage relationship is entered. Unfortunately, the love-bug holds the mind’s of a couple captive, in a sense that they fail to reason through some of life’s more serious issues where it’s vital a couple be like-minded if the train cars are to remain coupled on the marriage track. The issue is more about discussing these areas up front, and coming to terms with where each person stands, where compromises can be made that are satisfactory to both partners, and how conflicts are to be resolved when they do arise, in order to avoid a separateness of mind of such magnitude that it might lead to marriage termination. Resolution is always better than dissolution.
 

seekeroftruth

Well-Known Member
The earthly union of husbands and wives today are to be a reflection of the new oneness identification that all believers have with the Savior. God allows for no space to come between believers and his son. And, that’s how closely husbands and wives should safeguard their union with one another. Two minds working together being in unison. The fact is that most marriage partners don’t begin on the same page to start with. There are many areas of life, from a counselor’s perspective where marriages come apart at the seams...areas that those anticipating marriage should discuss before a marriage relationship is entered. Unfortunately, the love-bug holds the mind’s of a couple captive, in a sense that they fail to reason through some of life’s more serious issues where it’s vital a couple be like-minded if the train cars are to remain coupled on the marriage track. The issue is more about discussing these areas up front, and coming to terms with where each person stands, where compromises can be made that are satisfactory to both partners, and how conflicts are to be resolved when they do arise, in order to avoid a separateness of mind of such magnitude that it might lead to marriage termination. Resolution is always better than dissolution.

Don't you think that you're setting the bar a little high for today's society? It seems that your new believer today would be thrown out because of the rigors of the "perfect marriage". I've been married to the same man for over 35 years. Let me tell you.... there is not perfection in the best marriage because we are human.

:coffee:
 

newnature

New Member
Don't you think that you're setting the bar a little high for today's society? It seems that your new believer today would be thrown out because of the rigors of the "perfect marriage". I've been married to the same man for over 35 years. Let me tell you.... there is not perfection in the best marriage because we are human.

:coffee:

Take in God’s Word that you might be transformed by that Word. You must take part in the ingestion and absorption of his word rightly divided. Transformation God’s responsibility. The ingestion and absorption of divine viewpoint the believer’s responsibility. Religion is fill with lots of people who would rather beg God to fix their suffering circumstances rather than to thank God for his enabling grace that is sufficient for every suffering saint, that energizing power. Paul’s great desire was to know the Savior in his resurrection power because that same power that raised Jesus from among the dead was operating or energizing in Paul and it’s energizing in you. Ephesians 1:17-20
 
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