Turns out Obama was the real Russian stooge

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Turns out Obama was the real Russian stooge


Accommodating the illicit nuclear ambitions of a Russian ally? Welcoming a Russian foothold in the Middle East? Refusing to provide arms to a sovereign country invaded by Russia? Diminishing our defenses and pursuing a Moscow-friendly policy of hostility to fossil fuels?

All of these items, of course, refer to things said or done by President Barack Obama.

To take them in order: He re-set with Russia shortly after its clash with Georgia in 2008. He concluded the New START agreement with Moscow that reduced our nuclear forces but not theirs. When candidate Mitt Romney warned about Russia in the 2012 campaign, Obama rejected him as a Cold War relic.

The president then went on to forge an agreement with Russia’s ally Iran to allow it to preserve its nuclear program. During the red-line fiasco, he eagerly grasped a lifeline from Russia at the price of accepting its intervention in Syria. He never budged on giving Ukraine “lethal” weapons to defend itself from Russian attack.

Finally, Obama cut US defense spending and cracked down on fossil fuels — a policy that Russia welcomes, since its economy is dependent on high oil prices.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
Turns out Obama was the real Russian stooge


Accommodating the illicit nuclear ambitions of a Russian ally? Welcoming a Russian foothold in the Middle East? Refusing to provide arms to a sovereign country invaded by Russia? Diminishing our defenses and pursuing a Moscow-friendly policy of hostility to fossil fuels?

All of these items, of course, refer to things said or done by President Barack Obama.

To take them in order: He re-set with Russia shortly after its clash with Georgia in 2008. He concluded the New START agreement with Moscow that reduced our nuclear forces but not theirs. When candidate Mitt Romney warned about Russia in the 2012 campaign, Obama rejected him as a Cold War relic.

The president then went on to forge an agreement with Russia’s ally Iran to allow it to preserve its nuclear program. During the red-line fiasco, he eagerly grasped a lifeline from Russia at the price of accepting its intervention in Syria. He never budged on giving Ukraine “lethal” weapons to defend itself from Russian attack.

Finally, Obama cut US defense spending and cracked down on fossil fuels — a policy that Russia welcomes, since its economy is dependent on high oil prices.

Why are you still hung up on Obama? Trump has the watch now.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Why are you still hung up on Obama? Trump has the watch now.

Well, there are those that are still Obama-ites that were silent in approval of Obama's dealings with Russia that are now accusing Trump of colluding with them. In my world we call that 'hypocrisy'.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
It's just one more example of how the press has been on vacation for the last 8 years, this illusion that our nuke program has been reduced.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Well, there are those that are still Obama-ites that were silent in approval of Obama's dealings with Russia that are now accusing Trump of colluding with them. In my world we call that 'hypocrisy'.

There are people who are so butt hurt that they cannot get over the fact that Trump won.
They complain constantly since day one.

We don't need to mention any names.
 

tommyjo

New Member
Well, there are those that are still Obama-ites that were silent in approval of Obama's dealings with Russia that are now accusing Trump of colluding with them. In my world we call that 'hypocrisy'.

Just to clarify your idiotic statement...

If you are paying attention...actual attention...Mr. Trump's campaign--at the least--and Mr. Trump--at the worst--are currently suspected of colluding with the Russians to influence our Presidential election.

That's a damn site more important than your disapproval of Mr. Obama's foreign policy.

BTW...since you mention foreign policy...what is Mr. Trump's? How many policies can one administration have over Syria? How many regarding NATO/Europe? This administration is a monstrous CF...and our President gets distracted/changes his mind constantly...the US, under this administration has no policy on anything. Trump has the attention span of a 2 yr old.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Okay, but that's different. Obama is in bed with the communists for our greater good.

You are aware, of course, that Russia and Syria share a border? Would it not be in our interest if they did some of the heavy lifting in THEIR backyard? They're not antagonistic towards, let alone enemies of, Israel. And which is it this weak, the right loves or hates Putin?

You do know that, from 2003 to 2008 Iran was given a pass in it's role in killing US military personnel? That we made them rich enough with $100 oil to build their weapons programs? And that $100 oil sure as hell benefited Moscow?
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Turns out Obama was the real Russian stooge


Accommodating the illicit nuclear ambitions of a Russian ally? Welcoming a Russian foothold in the Middle East? Refusing to provide arms to a sovereign country invaded by Russia? Diminishing our defenses and pursuing a Moscow-friendly policy of hostility to fossil fuels?

All of these items, of course, refer to things said or done by President Barack Obama.

To take them in order: He re-set with Russia shortly after its clash with Georgia in 2008. He concluded the New START agreement with Moscow that reduced our nuclear forces but not theirs. When candidate Mitt Romney warned about Russia in the 2012 campaign, Obama rejected him as a Cold War relic.

The president then went on to forge an agreement with Russia’s ally Iran to allow it to preserve its nuclear program. During the red-line fiasco, he eagerly grasped a lifeline from Russia at the price of accepting its intervention in Syria. He never budged on giving Ukraine “lethal” weapons to defend itself from Russian attack.

Finally, Obama cut US defense spending and cracked down on fossil fuels — a policy that Russia welcomes, since its economy is dependent on high oil prices.

Wait, when one of your main advisors has parents who were communist sympathizers, Iranian sympathizer, you are advised to help Russia and Iran? I'm shocked.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
If you are paying attention...actual attention...Mr. Trump's campaign--at the least--and Mr. Trump--at the worst--are currently suspected of colluding with the Russians to influence our Presidential election.

How, exactly? What was the influence?
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Just to clarify your idiotic statement...

If you are paying attention...actual attention...Mr. Trump's campaign--at the least--and Mr. Trump--at the worst--are currently suspected of colluding with the Russians to influence our Presidential election.

That's a damn site more important than your disapproval of Mr. Obama's foreign policy.

BTW...since you mention foreign policy...what is Mr. Trump's? How many policies can one administration have over Syria? How many regarding NATO/Europe? This administration is a monstrous CF...and our President gets distracted/changes his mind constantly...the US, under this administration has no policy on anything. Trump has the attention span of a 2 yr old.

How long has this Russian BS been going on?
And they haven't found SH!T.
It more important to you because you actually believe it can remove Trump from office.
Talk about a moron.

What was Obama's foreign policy. FAKE REDLINES
Apologies for our existence?
Help the Muslims kill murder Christians?
Allow Muslin in our country, but no Christian refugees?

This administration may indeed be a CF as you say, but in comparison with the previous one it is Gold.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Yeah...we all know about the media narrative and left-wing talking points. Actual evidence?...not so much.

What a ####ing stunning load of crap! "Oh, they COLLUDED to 'influence' our election!!!" :tap:

As though her server, health, foundation, AG meeting with her hubby and general all around career and Hillary-ness had NOTHING to do with it.

Amazing.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Just to clarify your idiotic statement...

If you are paying attention...actual attention...Mr. Trump's campaign--at the least--and Mr. Trump--at the worst--are currently suspected of colluding with the Russians to influence our Presidential election.

That's a damn site more important than your disapproval of Mr. Obama's foreign policy.

BTW...since you mention foreign policy...what is Mr. Trump's? How many policies can one administration have over Syria? How many regarding NATO/Europe? This administration is a monstrous CF...and our President gets distracted/changes his mind constantly...the US, under this administration has no policy on anything. Trump has the attention span of a 2 yr old.

Let me guess... you're one of those anti-Trump types :bigwhoop:

Remember that little Russian reset? Then, thereafter, Putin goes into Crimea and makes a mess of that so-called 'reset'. You want to lecture me over Trump's foreign policy regarding Russia while ignoring Obama's abysmal blunders? You're a freaking joke that got no laughs.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
You are aware, of course, that Russia and Syria share a border? Would it not be in our interest if they did some of the heavy lifting in THEIR backyard? They're not antagonistic towards, let alone enemies of, Israel. And which is it this weak, the right loves or hates Putin?

You do know that, from 2003 to 2008 Iran was given a pass in it's role in killing US military personnel? That we made them rich enough with $100 oil to build their weapons programs? And that $100 oil sure as hell benefited Moscow?

What map/globe are you using?
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
You are aware, of course, that Russia and Syria share a border? Would it not be in our interest if they did some of the heavy lifting in THEIR backyard? They're not antagonistic towards, let alone enemies of, Israel. And which is it this weak, the right loves or hates Putin?

You do know that, from 2003 to 2008 Iran was given a pass in it's role in killing US military personnel? That we made them rich enough with $100 oil to build their weapons programs? And that $100 oil sure as hell benefited Moscow?

What?

You better take another look at the globe on your desk.

The right loves to hate Putin? The left loved Putin until Trump was elected; then suddenly Putin became the boogieman. Can you explain that amazing shift?

Putin is doing his share of heavy lifting in his own "backyard" by protecting Assad's dictatorship. Reportedly Putin knew that the gassing was going to happen and allowed it.

All you've done is made the case why we should be bombing Russia. And what Trump did (bombing Syria) was a slap in the face of Putin; which should dispel any belief that Trump is in bed with Putin.
 
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Wishbone

New Member
What map/globe are you using?

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Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
:lmao:

Next, Larry will get on his scoot and ride on over to Syria to see what's going on for himself.
 
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