Lois Lerner Demands Secrecy

[GURPS]

Lois Lerner Demands Secrecy for IRS Targeting Lawsuit Deposition


Lois Lerner, the former head of the IRS tax exempt division, is asking a federal judge to keep her deposition in a class action lawsuit related to the targeting scandal secret.

Lerner and another IRS manager, Holly Paz, claim they were harassed and received death threats for their role in the scandal and believe that releasing their depositions will lead to further threats.

Washington Times:

The two women submitted secret evidence to the judge that they said backed up the death threat claim. They said the threats they’ve already gotten contained “graphic, profane and disturbing language” that they said has caused them embarrassment.

The groups suing the IRS in the class action lawsuit have objected to the secrecy order, leaving the matter to Judge Barrett to decide.​

So Lerner feels "embarrassment"? She is afraid of "threats"? Imagine what went through the minds of ordinary citizens who felt the heavy hand of the IRS tearing apart their lives, asking for the most personal information, and violating the most sacred principles of individual and political freedom?


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Sunshine and lots of it, on this malfeasance

 

[Hijinx]

Lois Lerner Demands Secrecy for IRS Targeting Lawsuit Deposition


Lois Lerner, the former head of the IRS tax exempt division, is asking a federal judge to keep her deposition in a class action lawsuit related to the targeting scandal secret.

Lerner and another IRS manager, Holly Paz, claim they were harassed and received death threats for their role in the scandal and believe that releasing their depositions will lead to further threats.

Washington Times:

The two women submitted secret evidence to the judge that they said backed up the death threat claim. They said the threats they’ve already gotten contained “graphic, profane and disturbing language” that they said has caused them embarrassment.

The groups suing the IRS in the class action lawsuit have objected to the secrecy order, leaving the matter to Judge Barrett to decide.​

So Lerner feels "embarrassment"? She is afraid of "threats"? Imagine what went through the minds of ordinary citizens who felt the heavy hand of the IRS tearing apart their lives, asking for the most personal information, and violating the most sacred principles of individual and political freedom?


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Sunshine and lots of it, on this malfeasance

Is she in a position to DEMAND anything?

 

[PrchJrkr]

Is she in a position to DEMAND anything?

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[littlelady]

Secrecy and government are words that should not be used together. Lois knows what she did and wants to boo hoo about death threats. And, just who are making these threats? That would be interesting to know. She walked the first time. Guess what, Lois, Americans are under death threats everyday from loose cannon gangs, gun toting criminals, illegals, drug addicts, and terrorists. Welcome to the real world, you elitist. I guess you got comfortable in going back to daily life in Bethesda; living in your 2+ mil house, and still getting a salary. Disgusting. I hope you pay for being complicit, complacent, and feeling that you are untouchable; so many gov pols and employees feel that way. I hope Lois goes down the swamp drain, and many others. Go Trump!

One more thing. Koskinen is the head of the IRS. He is still there. Why? Lois is just the fall girl; slimey as she is. When will someone working for the gov speak out? Oh wait, they did and are dead or thrown to the curb. What a corrupt gov WE have. God bless, America.

And, the IRS (taxes) can crush a family, or business. Not to mention ACA and regulations. Why do corrupt officials walk? I will never get that. The Clintons are the poster children of all this crap. Hopefully, Trump can make some changes; even though, I know it is not that easy peasy.

 

[tommyjo]

Oh this should be fun...

Secrecy and government are words that should not be used together.

You mean like the logs of the visitors to the White House? The President's tax returns?

Lois knows what she did and wants to boo hoo about death threats.

Interesting...threats was one of the reasons the current administration used to make ALL the visitors to the White House "secret".

And, just who are making these threats? That would be interesting to know.

That's easy...right wing freaks.

Guess what, Lois, Americans are under death threats everyday from loose cannon gangs, gun toting criminals, illegals, drug addicts, and terrorists.

Can you please name a gang that is not "loose cannon"? Gun toting criminals...where do they get their guns? Oh sorry we are not supposed to talk about that are we! Illegals? Every set of stats shows that illegals are more law abiding that natural born citizens. Drug addicts? Terrorists? You could have included plagues and asteroids too...

Welcome to the real world, you elitist.

Thought you didn't call people names? Make sure you sing extra loud in church this Easter morning!

I guess you got comfortable in going back to daily life in Bethesda; living in your 2+ mil house, and still getting a salary. Disgusting.

So now it is disgusting for someone to be successful in this country?

I hope you pay for being complicit, complacent, and feeling that you are untouchable; so many gov pols and employees feel that way. I hope Lois goes down the swamp drain, and many others.

Yeah...right..."Drain the swamp"...how's that going so far?

Go Trump!

Yes...yes...please go. Let's get a President who is qualified to do the job. Let's get a President who can and will staff the government with people who are also qualified to do their jobs...and preferably people who are his unqualified children. Signing one's name on a contract to put your name on clothes someone else's company makes hardly qualifies one for an office in the West Wing.

One more thing. Koskinen is the head of the IRS. He is still there. Why?

That's actually a decent question...Trump hollowed out the State Dept. His Admin has failed (a word that is getting used so frequently with Trump that the word is losing its meaning) to nominate people to fill roughly 3/4 of the empty positions that require Senate confirmation...guess Melania better get busy and take some super fertility pills...there are 450+ positions that need to be filled by an unqualified person with the last name of Trump!

When will someone working for the gov speak out?

People in the govt are speaking out everyday...they are the anonymous sources you hate.

What a corrupt gov WE have.

"corrupt"...no...self serving...yes...politically dysfunctional...yes...run on both sides of the political aisle by rabid ideologues...you bet.

God bless, America.

Yeah...that'll help.

And, the IRS (taxes) can crush a family, or business.

Um...no. Families or businesses crush themselves by lying, cheating or failure to pay. That's the real world...not the stupid Breitbart version you and yours ascribe to.

Not to mention ACA and regulations.

Yeah...that's the biggest problem facing our country...your living on govt healthcare and complain that others might do the same?

Why do corrupt officials walk? I will never get that.

Something you "don't get"...wow that list is getting long...ever think of taking a civics class?

The Clintons are the poster children of all this crap.

Actually the poster child for govt corruption isn't even American...(think Africa...think Putin and his buddies)...but in American one with a knowledge base might consider Mayor Daley (sp) of Chicago from back in the day.

Hopefully, Trump can make some changes

Hope you are not holding your breathe. Trump couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. He's failed (there's that word again!) at healthcare...he's failed at his Muslim ban...Mitch McConnell would have pushed through the Supreme Court nominee of ANY President with an (R) after their name. Trump can't even manage the tiny little staff in the White House...how the hell is he going to manage the country?

 

[Kyle]

Poor TJ.... Her Zoloft must not have kicked in.

 

[Hijinx]

Poor TJ.... Her Zoloft must not have kicked in.

It's obvious that TJ is sitting home alone this fine Easter day with nothing to do.

Hey TJ get old B.o.B. out and give it a whirl, its better than making a total ass of yourself on the internet.

 

[GURPS]

Yes...yes...please go. Let's get a President who is qualified to do the job. Let's get a President who can and will staff the government with people who are also qualified to do their jobs...and preferably people who are his unqualified children.

what a miserable person you must be ..... but please enlighten, exactly which LEGAL Qualifications did Trump Lack, exactly ?


and Please your highness, tells us how YOU would run the country, whom you would hire ...

 

[This_person]

Oh this should be fun...


You mean like the logs of the visitors to the White House? The President's tax returns?

You had a chance, and lose it with your second question.

To the first question, Obama was the first president to release visitor logs, but (and that is one huge MO-sized "but") they only released who they wanted to release. I'm sure Boy Scout troops were on there, I'm sure anyone close to being "controversial" was not.

To the second question, there is no such requirement anywhere any way any time any how.

You lost the option to have anyone want to read beyond your first two fails.

 

[Larry Gude]

, I'm sure anyone close to being "controversial" was not.

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Haven't we seen a lot of reports detailing how many trips Rev. Al and times the head of the SEIU visited?

 

[Bird Dog]

Haven't we seen a lot of reports detailing how many trips Rev. Al and times the head of the SEIU visited?

SEIU president 22 visits Jan...July 2009. The top visitor.

 

[This_person]

Haven't we seen a lot of reports detailing how many trips Rev. Al and times the head of the SEIU visited?

To a progressive, those are not controversial. :shrug:

How many times did a known terrorist like Bill Ayers visit? How about the Rev?

 

[Hijinx]

To a progressive, those are not controversial. :shrug:

How many times did a known terrorist like Bill Ayers visit? How about the Rev?

What difference does it make. If Bill Ayres , Al Sharpton and CAIR visited Obama every day 5 times a day, people like TJ would see nothing wrong with it.
And don't think there aren't a bunch of people out there just as nutty.

 

[GURPS]

In that speech — just weeks after Ms. Lerner revealed the IRS’s illegal behavior — Mr. Meckler said tea party advocates could “have a lot of fun abusing these government employees.”

Ms. Lerner’s lawyer didn’t respond to requests from The Washington Times for more details on the threats.

Mr. Meckler told The Times that if Ms. Lerner manages to keep her deposition sealed it would “set an outrageous legal precedent, allowing the testimony of egregious acts by public servants to be permanently hidden.”

“The irony of this argument is astounding. The government has admitted that these people unconstitutionally targeted people based on their political beliefs. Now the individuals most responsible for the targeting wish to finish off their secret scheme to illegally target their fellow citizens, in secrecy,” he said.

He said when Ms. Lerner accuses him of fomenting threats, it’s a continuation of the targeting she oversaw while at the IRS, and said the Obama administration repeatedly tried to force Mr. Meckler to give up the legal challenge.

“It is time to blow this scandal wide open, and the unsealing of the Lois Lerner and Holly Paz depositions would be a good first step,” he said.

Some of the two women’s information is public, including emails sent and received during the targeting.

But what that information shows has been heatedly debated.

The Justice Department under President Barack Obama cleared Ms. Lerner of any wrongdoing and even praised her for stopping the targeting when she learned of it. Under President Trump, the same department agreed to settlements admitting illegal behavior by the IRS, and blaming Ms. Lerner in particular.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/11/lois-lerner-exceedingly-low-public-interest-in-her/