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  1. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by CalvertNewb View Post
    You said "The fact is, Obama leaving office has companies and consumers at their highest confidence level in our economy in almost two decades."

    That statement is wrong. That was not the question the poll asked. You have interpreted that. That is not a fact. The poll asked about confidence in the economy under Trump.

    There was no mention of Obama.

    So no. You are in fact interpreted facts and not reporting them. Even if your facts were correct you would be quoting them or highlighting them. Unless you actually did the polling, or are a news agency you aren't reporting anything. Don't flatter yourself
    It's true that there is no mention of Obama. But, similar polls of similar people were lower, and now they're higher.

    But, how does that play to the consumer confidence being higher than it's been since 2000? And, how does that play to the workforce participation rate being the lowest it has been in four decades?
    There are only two possibilities; one is that we are alone in the universe, the other is that we are not.
    Both are terrifying.

  2. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by CalvertNewb View Post
    Read a newspaper. Why do I have to tell you something you should know as an informed person. The most recent health care bill proposed by the dems would have cut acces from 24 million people with preexisting conditions that were covered under Obamacare. Luckily it didn't get enough support
    You're telling me to trust a newspaper to tell me something like this that hasn't even happened yet? Would this be one of the newspapers that was touting how great Obamacare was going to be?

    I have absolutely no expectation that you would provide evidence of your claim, because there is no evidence. It's a bunch of made up crap targeting directly at gullible people like you. Obamacare was completely based on layers of lies. John Gruber admitted that would not be affordable and that Americans were too stupid to understand it. Yet you want to continually be stuck in this hive of deceit.
    "Never let the old man in." - Clint Eastwood quoting an old friend

  3. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by PsyOps View Post
    You're telling me to trust a newspaper to tell me something like this that hasn't even happened yet? Would this be one of the newspapers that was touting how great Obamacare was going to be?

    I have absolutely no expectation that you would provide evidence of your claim, because there is no evidence. It's a bunch of made up crap targeting directly at gullible people like you. Obamacare was completely based on layers of lies. John Gruber admitted that would not be affordable and that Americans were too stupid to understand it. Yet you want to continually be stuck in this hive of deceit.
    Literally every independent analysis of Ryancare came to the conclusion that 24 million people would lose insurance. Even Brietbart said it which is akin to god himself to some conservatives. . http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...rance-by-2026/

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalvertNewb View Post

    So once you reach certain amount of money you suddenly decided you don't want anymore? What are you even trying to say?
    What are you even trying to say?

    Just for giggles, how is he profiting off of being POTUS? He is donating his salary, put his business(es) in a trust, his sons are running the business(es), his business(es) gave up or seriously reduced their overseas interests or what-have-you.

    What else could he do to please YOU? Nothing, that's what. Nothing. Why don't ya just say that? You wouldn't be a Trump supporter no matter what he did.

  5. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Bann View Post
    What are you even trying to say?

    Just for giggles, how is he profiting off of being POTUS? He is donating his salary, put his business(es) in a trust, his sons are running the business(es), his business(es) gave up or seriously reduced their overseas interests or what-have-you.

    What else could he do to please YOU? Nothing, that's what. Nothing. Why don't ya just say that? You wouldn't be a Trump supporter no matter what he did.
    Far-left types like Newb resent anyone who has been financially successful as a result of their own efforts. Except for celebrities. For them it's OK to have gotten rich solely on the basis of their appearance and ability to play pretend. Figures.
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  6. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by CalvertNewb View Post
    Yeah $10 million in startup money. Must be nice. As to him earning his money fairly have you. Or seen how many lawsuits he hAs had to settle? He just paid $25 million to settle Trump university. So I'd say his cheating st golf shoes he is willing to cheat st many other things.

    As to class warfare most of trumps proposed tax changes would benefit me. I would save a lot more with him then Hilary but some things are more important than money. Like making sure handicapped people, the mentally ill, veterans and the elderly have health care. So I'm happy to pay more to make sure we have social safety nets for the less fortunate
    And once again, you throw out numbers that I'm unable to find anywhere. I was able to find where Trump may have been LOANED up to $14 million over several years. Trump's claim that he only received $1 million has not been refuted; there's only a bunch of speculation. So, I am asking you again to provide your source this $10 million.

    You will find that every wealthy business owner goes through constant lawsuits. Their influence is so widespread that it's inevitable they will be sued over something. Hell, Bill Gates was sued by the DOJ for cripes sake. Was Bill Gates dishonest in how he ran his business? Check out the lawsuits against Apple. Regardless of what Trump was LOANED, he earned it back in numbers I can't fathom. His inheritance was allegedly around $200-$300 million in 1999 when his dad died. He was well into being a billionaire by them. So, a drop in the bucket really. He didn't need the inheritance.

    There is too much 'social safety'. Our government does a really crappy job with deliberate oversight on who gets public assistance and who doesn't. I don't mind paying taxes to help those that are truly in need. This country has shown that they are more than willing to give when someone is in need. Just look at 'GoFundMe'. This whole thing has little to do with my personal money as it does the corrosion of our working force because the government gives us the impression that they are the answer to all of our woes. Socialism doesn't work. This has been proven just about everywhere. It's an absolute fact that every socialist government eventually runs out of other peoples' money.
    "Never let the old man in." - Clint Eastwood quoting an old friend

  7. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by CalvertNewb View Post
    Literally every independent analysis of Ryancare came to the conclusion that 24 million people would lose insurance. Even Brietbart said it which is akin to god himself to some conservatives. . http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...rance-by-2026/
    Your original statement said that peoples' healthcare would be cut. I'm asking you... do you really believe if Ryancare got passed that these 24 million would have no access to healthcare at all? Are you at least willing to admit that Obamacare has failed and needs to be done away with? It has done nothing to reduce the cost of insurance or healthcare. People did lose their doctors. People were forced off of their plans. It was FORCED on everyone, even those that couldn't afford it. Everything got more expensive. This had the biggest impact on the poor. The wealthy made out great because they could afford it. And Gruber (the architect of Obamacare) admitted it was intended to fail. It was all designed to force us into single-payer. The people of this country were forced into this deplorable LAW all rooted in lies.

    Given what Obamacare did to this country, I am not believing that 24 million will be forced off of insurance. What is likely to happen is 24 million people will then have the CHOICE (you know that thing called freedom?) not to buy health insurance if they don't want to. The government has absolutely no business forcing Americans to participate in any market place; I don't care under what guise it is - for some BS cause 'for the greater good'.
    "Never let the old man in." - Clint Eastwood quoting an old friend

  8. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by PsyOps View Post
    You will find that every wealthy business owner goes through constant lawsuits.
    That. Unaccomplished people - typical those on the left like TJ and Newb - don't know that. They also don't understand anything related to the risks and rewards involved in starting and running businesses..with some succeeding but others failing.
    You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. -Frank Zappa

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    The government has absolutely no business forcing Americans to participate in any market place; I don't care under what guise it is - for some BS cause 'for the greater good'.
    Amen.

  10. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    That. Unaccomplished people - typical those on the left like TJ and Newb - don't know that. They also don't understand anything related to the risks and rewards involved in starting and running businesses..with some succeeding but others failing.
    I've run my own business for the last twelve years and have yet to be sued. I can tell you if I am I certainly won't settle if I'm not guilty of any crime.

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