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    No batteries.

    Panels are warranted for 20 years.. (LG panels so not too worried about them going out of business)

    Mechanics (like Inverters) are warranted for 15..

    There really isn't much to a solar install on the roof.. unplug and remove the panels, remove the rails, and the mounting hardware wouldn't be difficult to shingle around.. part of the design I would think. I can't imagine it would add more than $500 - 1000 for a new roof install.


    After you remove the panels, and the rails (the panels actually attach to rails ran from one mounting point to another.. there aren't many mounting points left on the roof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR47930 View Post
    Lowered our electric bill in the winters from $400-$500 a month to <$100 by installing a pellet stove...
    Can I ask you a few things?

    Do you have to keep a really large supply of pellets on hand?
    When you installed it - was it a simple matter of attaching it to existing duct work?
    Did you replace your heat pump - do you use it for AC during summer?
    Did you need to have an external flue or chimney running up the side of your house for the stove?

    What size is your house? Mine has two zones (large extension over the garage) and one source for heat isn't enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsbob View Post
    After the rebate about the same as your estimate, a little less than 30k.. NO batteries. 42 panels and Inverter, and install..
    Wow. *42* panels? How much roof is that? I'd have to think you have every inch of your roof covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    Wow. *42* panels? How much roof is that? I'd have to think you have every inch of your roof covered.
    Shoot, that is just the back of the house, as we still have a fair amount of open area with no panels. We still do not have any panels on the front of the house, or on either side of our garage. If we panel'ed the entire roof, we'd need about 125 panels, and we ain't rich enough for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    Wow. *42* panels? How much roof is that? I'd have to think you have every inch of your roof covered.
    December 1st right after the install of the panels (not hooked up at his point) at just about 2 PM..

    This isn't the most efficient roof to have them on, we have a garage roof that is Perpendicular to this one that would get a lot more morning sun.. but not as large an area.

    You can see from this picture why we had to thin the forest a bit.. Currently we start getting shade on the back roof about 5PM but nowhere near as bad as this..
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsbob View Post
    . NO batteries. 42 panels and Inverter, and install..
    The system I designed has to have the battery storage because it's completely off the grid. So that part would not apply to a regular home...I realize that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    The system I designed has to have the battery storage because it's completely off the grid. So that part would not apply to a regular home...I realize that.
    We've been thinking about if for years.. but always in the back of my mind was.. What's coming?? How much are the prices going to come down??

    Finally just bit the bullet.. now I'm sure for everyone else, the prices will come down and new more efficient systems will be coming out this year..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    Can I ask you a few things?

    Q:Do you have to keep a really large supply of pellets on hand?
    A:Yes, we keep 4+ tons on hand for the winter and I stash up in the summer when prices are low. 2 tons fit on a pallet if stacked ~8ft high.
    Q:When you installed it - was it a simple matter of attaching it to existing duct work?
    A:It's not hooked into duct work, its basically a super high powered space heater that hardly uses any electricity.
    Q:Did you replace your heat pump - do you use it for AC during summer?
    A:We haven't replaced our heat pump yet. We plan to replace the outside AC units next spring when we get our 2017 tax return. We do not use electric heat at all anymore since getting the pellet stove.
    Q:Did you need to have an external flue or chimney running up the side of your house for the stove?
    A:Not necessarily, we replaced a direct vent gas fireplace that was useless so the vent for the pellet stove is the same hole, straight out from the house (different vent pipes).
    Q:What size is your house? Mine has two zones (large extension over the garage) and one source for heat isn't enough.
    A: 2300 sq feet main floor and upstairs. We have 2 heatpumps but our house is somewhat open concept so the heat from the pellet stove travels upstairs nicely. We do have 1000sq ft finished basement that is underground, and that gets chilly in the winters since it is unheated (heat travels up, not down). We bought one of those infrared space heaters and I'll wear sweats and slippers when I'm down there watching football on the 70".
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    Anyone look into the Tesla solar tiles? They look like regular shingles and have a lifetime warranty. I assume they dont come cheap.
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    So someone mentioned their heat pump with electric backup can run them 500/mo. in the winter. Is this normal? I currently have an older heat pump with natural gas backup and my combined gas/electric bill is usually under 200 even in the worst winter.

    What is the HSPF rating of your system? How warm did you keep it in the winter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clem72 View Post
    So someone mentioned their heat pump with electric backup can run them 500/mo. in the winter. Is this normal? I currently have an older heat pump with natural gas backup and my combined gas/electric bill is usually under 200 even in the worst winter.

    What is the HSPF rating of your system? How warm did you keep it in the winter?
    Depending on the size of the system, yes, it can be.

    The emergency backup electric coils are 12kW (give or take). If it runs 12 hours/day in emergency mode, and using 10 cents/kWH, that's $438.30 per month just for the heat.
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