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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    I will ad this to my first post, If this contactor does not have his Md Home Improvement License you need to call the State Police and have them removed from your property and don't pay them any more money. If they try to return the State Police will arrest the owner and any employees that continue to try to work.
    If they are not licensed with the State they are considered Gypsy Contractors buy the State.

    And if by chance they do have their Md Home Improvement Lic you need to file a complaint with the Home Improvement Commission on their website.
    thank you. this information will be win win for me, either way will bring me some satisfaction.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyMotorcycle View Post
    Soo... Got a door to door roof sales pitch... no thanks..

    Eventually our roof started leaking and had damage from either hail or branches and the 100mph ? winds...

    So my wife.. idiot that she is... calls our insurance decides to go with this guy.. despite me telling her to get 3 estimates and being patient..

    All i know is the guy's name is Jessie and he has a long beard and drives an astro van (company name not on any of the vehicles they showed up with. bad sign.)... and apparently hires immigrant labor to do ALL the work..

    Wife says he's a legitimate company with positive (yelp?) reviews or something.. I should have known better than to let her handle it after she wasted $1800 on a well pump install
    with her fathers money.. trying to get the water cleared up (posted about that too)..

    So anyway.. i was storing a friends motorcycle. It was parked in front of the car port... the day before that, that's the spot they used for their trailer to take away the old roof debris..
    5 pm the next day they had not shown up... so i specifically parked the bike pointing straight into the car port so that people driving by could only see the rear end of the bike and not
    advertise it being there, since it is custom and expensive. I live on a busy road with no sidewalks and no foot traffic. Also i parked the bike there near my air compressor to put air in the rear tire. So anyway I had to leave out, I left at 5 pm and parked the bike in a specific manner. At 6 pm my wife gets home and noticed the bike is parked awkwardly in the driveway. The roofers were there working.. but they had the trailer parked across the street today and not in the driveway/carport parking spot. Again; So I leave at 5 pm, She gets there at 6 pm and the bike is moved, and the workers are there.

    I get home later, see it's moved, and inspect it, and I see there are damages. I don't get much company, most of my friends do not know where I live. No one would have any reason to move that bike, except them, to put their trailer there again for the roofing work... or move it away so it wouldn't get damaged from the roofing work.. So they had motive and opportunity to move it.. and presence.. (with no claims of anyone else coming by).
    It was moved. they said they didn't touch it.. and of course it's also damaged. With the steering being locked and someone pushing it, they might find out the hard way it's easier to fall over with the steering locked trying to push it.

    So my wife contacts jessie the roofing company owner... She emails him the details. She reports back to me that he says his guys say they didnt' touch it, and we are calling him and his guys liars. My wife wants his insurance company information and let the insurance companies hash it out.. This guy tells my wife that it would be fraudulent... I guess the bike moved itself and damaged itself?

    I'm glad he already has gotten into it with our insurance adjuster, the adjuster will be on our side i'm sure (maybe he'll take it out of their check)... but him saying we're calling them liars and saying the claim is fraudulent? that is NOT the way he should have handled it. They're supposed to be coming back tomorrow.. i'm about ready to tell them 2 things.. 1>show me your ID, no ID, no coming on my property. 2>Just stay TF off my property and you'll get the check AFTER this motorcycle matter is resolved, i'll see you in court with a counter suit. Let's see how well your customer service skills are now. No one gets paid until the truth comes out and the bike owner gets compensated for his damages. I had a bad feeling about that guy. Makes me mad.

    Anyone know if i can call the Charles county police to come out when they are here, to get identification on these workers? Take finger prints off this motorcycle they claimed they didn't touch? yet i see prints on it as if it was being picked up with help... I wouldn't be surprised if they are illegal aliens.. and that pisses me off too. You're getting paid full retail by the insurance company, you shouldn't be using illegal labor.

    Any advice?
    There have been a few posts about YELP...and as a business owner myself, let me tell you about YELP. If I pay them, they will post positive reviews about my business. Otherwise, they will post negative crap over and over again and not post the positive. They are extortionists and I would not rely on them being a good source of recommendation AT ALL!
    "It's nice to be important but it's also important to be nice."

  3. #23
    If I may ...

    Quote Originally Posted by frequentflier View Post
    There have been a few posts about YELP...and as a business owner myself, let me tell you about YELP. If I pay them, they will post positive reviews about my business. Otherwise, they will post negative crap over and over again and not post the positive. They are extortionists and I would not rely on them being a good source of recommendation AT ALL!
    Where there is smoke, there is fire?
    If the military wanted you to have a spouse, or family, they would have issued you one.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by LightRoasted View Post
    If I may ...



    Where there is smoke, there is fire?
    I've heard this same thing from many different sources. Pay to Play or get bad reviews.
    "It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob."
    The Brain

  5. #25
    If I may ...

    Quote Originally Posted by GWguy View Post
    I've heard this same thing from many different sources. Pay to Play or get bad reviews.
    Yeah. I've read many stories about them, and the lawsuits against them for this very issue. I was just poking her a bit.
    If the military wanted you to have a spouse, or family, they would have issued you one.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by LightRoasted View Post
    If I may ...



    Yeah. I've read many stories about them, and the lawsuits against them for this very issue. I was just poking her a bit.
    Why? I offer facts I know to be true from personal experience. I try not to be a jerk on the forums. You, on the other hand...
    "It's nice to be important but it's also important to be nice."

  7. #27
    If I may ...

    Quote Originally Posted by frequentflier View Post
    Why? I offer facts I know to be true from personal experience. I try not to be a jerk on the forums. You, on the other hand...
    O...M...G! Can't there be any fun had? Too much seriousness goings on around here on the forums. Lighten up a bit. Though often I can be a "jerk", most often times I post relevant, thoughtful, and insightful dialog. Geez, go squeeze a doggie squeaky ball or something. Better yet, go use the scratching post.
    If the military wanted you to have a spouse, or family, they would have issued you one.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by LightRoasted View Post
    If I may ...

    O...M...G! Can't there be any fun had? Too much seriousness goings on around here on the forums. Lighten up a bit. Though often I can be a "jerk", most often times I post relevant, thoughtful, and insightful dialog. Geez, go squeeze a doggie squeaky ball or something. Better yet, go use the scratching post.
    Sorry, ff, I had to laugh at the scratching post comment; it got me good! Sharpening the claws, and all. I am guilty of that, too. And, it occurs often on this forum. Members know who they are.

    And, you are right, LR, about the seriousness on the forum vs lightening up. I think it is a sign of the times, and we are all worried about the state of the World, and our country. I have humor, but keep misplacing it. Then, I find it, and lose it again. I always say...I know it is here, somewhere!
    Last edited by littlelady; 06-04-2017 at 11:47 PM.
    ​​Like I said. JMO, yo! - Roman
    If you ignore the trolls, they starve. - Wishbone

  9. #29
    First, I am also a bit disheartened by the wifey comments here. I can certainly appreciate the frustration the issue has presented and her likely being an easy target, but a team is a team and you're publically throwing a teammate under the bus. Bad form IMO. I am sure the comments were stemming from that frustration and nothing more and time would've eliminated that choice under better circumstances.

    Anyhow, I personally don't see this as being anything more than "he said/she said." To your credit, they are the only logical culprit. To the business owner, you could be just some other scamming customer who wants to falsely cry "damage" hoping for a discount. Point being, he has no way of knowing you're being legit and you have no way of knowing if he's being legit. If he didn't witness said event, he has to defer to his people first right?

    Not sure what the cops or anyone else will do. If he's unlicensed, not sure what does to help the situation. I would assume your insurance company wouldn't pay to him directly if he wasn't but if the money was cut directly to you - the risk of a competent contractor would be on you anyhow and they'd wipe their hands of it.

    My opinion, ask to meet the guy at the site. Walk him through the scenario in person and see if he can offer up a reasonable solution to the problem. IE - review the damage and see if it's reasonably consistent with the work being done (scratches/dings consistent with falling shingles, etc). If you're really convinced it was his people, tell the man in person you are going to call the cops while he is there for them to do a report/investigation. If he's doing dirty, he may opt to work with you. If he doesn't budge then - he's not going to which probably means he's convinced he's clean.

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyMotorcycle View Post
    Again; So I leave at 5 pm, She gets there at 6 pm and the bike is moved, and the workers are there.

    I get home later, see it's moved, and inspect it, and I see there are damages. Any advice?
    I vote with Jessie, your fault. If it was so valuable to you, you should not have left it out. No way you can verify what happened. Chalk it up to lessons learned and move on.
    The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

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