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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by hotbikermama40 View Post
    well it's handy that they make those little garbage bags for you men to put the seed in if you're not gonna use it to sow, right? no sowing, no wild oats...no need for the next abortion - voila!
    I agree more men and women ( you know they make bags and many other means to prevent pregnancy ) should use garbage bags more often, and we should ramp up the amount of abortions that are done.. Maybe the States should offer a bounty, like bring in a friend and you get yours 50% off.
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  2. #22
    If I may ...

    I have never understood this anti-abortion thing. Why do people care so much about something that has no direct bearing upon themselves? So what if a woman wants to have an abortion, for whatever reason? If there was no agreement, in any stage of the relationship, between a man and a woman, as for wanting a child, and she gets pregnant and decides for an abortion, so what? Really? Why do so many people stick their hoity-toity myopic life views, religious or otherwise, in another person's life? I just don't get it. And don't care.
    If the military wanted you to have a spouse, or family, they would have issued you one.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by LightRoasted View Post
    If I may ...

    I have never understood this anti-abortion thing. Why do people care so much about something that has no direct bearing upon themselves? So what if a woman wants to have an abortion, for whatever reason? If there was no agreement, in any stage of the relationship, between a man and a woman, as for wanting a child, and she gets pregnant and decides for an abortion, so what? Really? Why do so many people stick their hoity-toity myopic life views, religious or otherwise, in another person's life? I just don't get it. And don't care.
    Yeppppp..... I always laugh at the anti-abortion men that spew stupid $hit.
    If a man doesn't want to be involved in a abortion, don't nut up in there.
    If you are a woman and don't want a abortion, don't let him nut up in there.
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  4. #24
    My wife is six weeks pregnant, and there's a heartbeat already. We keep people on life support without brain function, but kill potential life. It's sad to hear people be so flippant when it comes to abortion. Personal responsibility could solve a lot of these problems. I would wager a high percentage of abortions come from one night stands, people not in a serious relationship, or because of decisions made while drunk.

    That being said, outlawing the procedure would not solve the problem.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by WooterBird View Post
    My wife is six weeks pregnant, and there's a heartbeat already. We keep people on life support without brain function, but kill potential life. It's sad to hear people be so flippant when it comes to abortion. Personal responsibility could solve a lot of these problems. I would wager a high percentage of abortions come from one night stands, people not in a serious relationship, or because of decisions made while drunk.

    That being said, outlawing the procedure would not solve the problem.
    Exactly, there's no "one size fits all" solution (is there one for any issue?). But abortion is always a hot topic, and I'm no exception (as is obvious from my earlier posts on this thread) from getting 'hot' under the collar over it. It IS sad, and upsetting to hear flippancy when you have been affected. I lost a child early on in my pregnancy in my mid-20's. This was a child we had tried for more than a year to conceive. I can assure anyone who reads this I'm not bemoaning this loss - I grieved then and came to terms with the loss. But I know there are so many young couples out there who deal with that loss more than a few times and I can't imagine what it must be like for someone who treasures the hope for a new life, and grieves each time it is lost to hear the aforementioned flippancy. That's my moral reasoning. It goes hand in hand with my values rooted in my religion. But if I were not involved with any religion, or believed myself to be without any connection spiritually, I would still believe abortion is - in most situations - not the only option available. I say that with conviction based solely on what I know about the biology of it all. Where there is growth and growing, and the ideal or even perfect environment for that growth to occur, there is something alive. And every life has value, beauty and potential. It is no one person's dogmatic right to decide otherwise. This is being stated 'as fact' but I will reiterate, it is my belief.
    Some folks just need a high-five. Some just need a high-five to the face.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by WooterBird View Post
    My wife is six weeks pregnant, and there's a heartbeat already. We keep people on life support without brain function, but kill potential life. It's sad to hear people be so flippant when it comes to abortion. Personal responsibility could solve a lot of these problems. I would wager a high percentage of abortions come from one night stands, people not in a serious relationship, or because of decisions made while drunk.

    That being said, outlawing the procedure would not solve the problem.
    Flippant??? No not at all, I'm realistic.. who cares how someone gets pregnant, its not anybody's business but that woman.
    You can't Legislate morality...
    Proud to be a cereal comma user.

  7. #27
    If I may ...

    Quote Originally Posted by hotbikermama40 View Post
    Exactly, there's no "one size fits all" solution (is there one for any issue?). But abortion is always a hot topic, and I'm no exception (as is obvious from my earlier posts on this thread) from getting 'hot' under the collar over it. It IS sad, and upsetting to hear flippancy when you have been affected. I lost a child early on in my pregnancy in my mid-20's. This was a child we had tried for more than a year to conceive. I can assure anyone who reads this I'm not bemoaning this loss - I grieved then and came to terms with the loss. But I know there are so many young couples out there who deal with that loss more than a few times and I can't imagine what it must be like for someone who treasures the hope for a new life, and grieves each time it is lost to hear the aforementioned flippancy. That's my moral reasoning. It goes hand in hand with my values rooted in my religion. But if I were not involved with any religion, or believed myself to be without any connection spiritually, I would still believe abortion is - in most situations - not the only option available. I say that with conviction based solely on what I know about the biology of it all. Where there is growth and growing, and the ideal or even perfect environment for that growth to occur, there is something alive. And every life has value, beauty and potential. It is no one person's dogmatic right to decide otherwise. This is being stated 'as fact' but I will reiterate, it is my belief.
    A personal tragedy should not be projected on, or used to judge, others. It is your belief, of what you would personally do, or not do. That's commendable, and a personal decision. The emotional pain of losing a pregnancy, I'm sure, is debilitating. And to see others make a decision contrary to your wants, must also be equally debilitating because you want what they are ending. It is not flippancy that guides my position. It is the belief of, to each their own. Yes it is sad, to think about the ending of a pregnancy. But, here, I am projecting my experience with being a parent. Of being there and cutting the cord. That every parent should experience that incredible moment. But it does not give me the right to tell someone what they can not do. My feelings and emotions do not matter, and carry no weight. However, if asked, personally, for advice, by those contemplating the ending of a pregnancy, I would advise against it. Because, I believe, children, bring out the best of a man and woman.
    If the military wanted you to have a spouse, or family, they would have issued you one.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by LightRoasted View Post
    If I may ...



    A personal tragedy should not be projected on, or used to judge, others. It is your belief, of what you would personally do, or not do. That's commendable, and a personal decision. The emotional pain of losing a pregnancy, I'm sure, is debilitating. And to see others make a decision contrary to your wants, must also be equally debilitating because you want what they are ending. It is not flippancy that guides my position. It is the belief of, to each their own. Yes it is sad, to think about the ending of a pregnancy. But, here, I am projecting my experience with being a parent. Of being there and cutting the cord. That every parent should experience that incredible moment. But it does not give me the right to tell someone what they can not do. My feelings and emotions do not matter, and carry no weight. However, if asked, personally, for advice, by those contemplating the ending of a pregnancy, I would advise against it. Because, I believe, children, bring out the best of a man and woman.
    Like I said, I'm no exception to getting hot under the collar. But I have NEVER told anyone (outside of exercising my right to vote) that they should or should not do anything, whether it is an abortion, a same-sex marriage, etc. It is for every person a personal decision. I have had friends, and have friends now that are gay, atheist, believe in abortion, do not believe in marriage or having children, are Liberal...and I love them dearly. I care about the topics, so I come here to commiserate with others, argue with others still and in general, just 'beef' about things. But more than anything else politically-related that I believe in, I believe in our freedom to choose. Before I point fingers at any one person for their individual choices, I would list my own.
    Some folks just need a high-five. Some just need a high-five to the face.

  9. #29
    If I may ...

    Quote Originally Posted by hotbikermama40 View Post
    Like I said, I'm no exception to getting hot under the collar. But I have NEVER told anyone (outside of exercising my right to vote) that they should or should not do anything, whether it is an abortion, a same-sex marriage, etc. It is for every person a personal decision. I have had friends, and have friends now that are gay, atheist, believe in abortion, do not believe in marriage or having children, are Liberal...and I love them dearly. I care about the topics, so I come here to commiserate with others, argue with others still and in general, just 'beef' about things. But more than anything else politically-related that I believe in, I believe in our freedom to choose. Before I point fingers at any one person for their individual choices, I would list my own.
    I stand corrected. We've more in common than I thought.
    If the military wanted you to have a spouse, or family, they would have issued you one.

  10. #30
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    I don't like any abortion,but if a woman decides to abort it should be in the first trimester or certainly not more than a month into the second.

    There should be no late term abortions unless the mother is in danger of death or the child is hopelessly having a birth defect.

    Now some might not agree I don't really give a damn, their opinion won't change mine.
    When the child is viable and into its late stages abortion is murder.

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