Makes me ashamed to live in Maryland.

[Hijinx]

Our great Attorney general here in Maryland has gone in with an Attorney General in DC to file a lawsuit against Donald Trump.
Now he claims it is to make Trump keep his promises about his business dealings.
But anyone who does not have their head buried up their ass knows that this is strictly another democrat shot at the President.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-trump-over-foreign-payments-reports-say.html

Personally I wonder that our Attorney General has the time to turn his back on his job here in Maryland and get involved in National politics, but I realize that the two Mikes are behind him 100% in his fight against the President.
IMO he should be removed from the office he doesn't have time for so he can put his full efforts into his plan to fight the duly elected President of the United States. Many people in Maryland are sick and tired of the way the Democrat politicians in this state have ####ed up Maryland and now want to go national.

Get rid of Frosh and the 2 Mikes.

 

[glhs837]

The way I read it, this is just another tactic to get him to disclose his taxes. I suppose they figure it should arrive in courts just in time for the midterms, giving them a weapon.

 

[GURPS]

Oh For ####s Sake ........ liberals think the have a case with the emoluments clause

which DOES NOT APPLY HERE *
* [queue sappy to tell us how wrong we are]

The scope of any constitutional provision is determined by the original public meaning of the Constitution’s text. Here that text, understood through historical evidence, establishes that foreign governments’ business at a Trump International Hotel or similar enterprises is not a “present, Emolument, Office, or Title.” So long as foreign governments pay fair-market-value prices, their business is not a “present” because they are receiving fair value as a part of the exchange. It clearly is not an “Office”10 or a “Title”11 from that government. These commentators therefore must rest their argument on the final category of prohibited benefit: “Emolument.”

As shown below, an emolument was widely understood at the framing of the Constitution to mean any compensation or privilege associated with an office—then, as today, an “emolument” in legal usage was a payment or other benefit received as a consequence of discharging the duties of an office. Emoluments did not encompass all payments of any kind from any source, and would not have included revenues from providing standard hotel services to guests, as these services do not amount to the performance of an office, and therefore do not occur as a consequence of discharging the duties of an office.

The Constitution’s text shows that the word had this more limited meaning. Apart from the Foreign Emoluments Clause, the term emolument appears twice more in the Constitution, and both times refers to compensation associated with an office.


https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3280261/MLB-White-Paper-1-10-Pm.pdf

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...-payments-from-foreign-governments-u-s-argues

George Washington did it, so Donald Trump can, too.

That’s the Justice Department’s take on why the 45th president isn’t violating the U.S. Constitution by accepting payments for goods and services from foreign governments without congressional approval.

The foreign emoluments clause of the Constitution doesn’t apply to fair-market commercial transactions, such as hotel bills, golf club fees, licensing payments and office rent, the Justice department argued Friday in a filing. The government is asking a judge to throw out a lawsuit brought by a watchdog group that claims Trump’s business dealings violate the Constitution.
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The U.S. said Washington gave detailed instructions for the operation of his Mount Vernon plantation, and exported flour and cornmeal to England, Portugal and Jamaica while president. Thomas Jefferson exported tobacco to Great Britain. No concerns were raised over their receiving foreign emoluments. And Barack Obama received royalties on his books, many of which are held in the libraries of foreign public universities, according to the government.

The Justice Department also argued that CREW and the other plaintiffs in the case lack legal standing -- that they didn’t suffer a sufficient legal harm to allow them to sue. This argument attacks the authority of the court to consider the case at all and could result in a quick dismissal of the case if accepted by the judge. The government also claims it would be unconstitutional for a judge to issue an injunction against the president in his official capacity.

 

[Hijinx]

Oh For ####s Sake ........ liberals think the have a case with the emoluments clause

which DOES NOT APPLY HERE *
* [queue sappy to tell us how wrong we are]

I don't know dick about the emoluments clause, but I do klnow is the Maryland Attorney General should be working for Maryland and doing his job and not attacking the President for political reasons.

I also know that anyone who cannot see this as just another political plot against Trump is a freaking fool.
If trump gives them his taxes it will not remove him from the Presidency.
If his taxes suit the IRS they should suit this POS Attorney General of ours.

I hate the fact that he is using his official office in my State to attack the President.
Obviously he does not have enough in his office to keep him busy.

 

[Wishbone]

Get rid of Frosh and the 2 Mikes.

It would be nice, but they're like a drug resistant parasitic infection.

 

[GURPS]

CITIZENS FOR RESPONSIBILITY AND ETHICS IN WASHINGTON (CREW)


Established in 2001, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) describes itself as a “nonpartisan” public interest group that litigates and brings ethics charges against “government officials who sacrifice the common good to special interests” and “betray the public trust.”

CREW’s ultimate purpose is to use “the rule of law to bring about constructive social change” in a manner the organization likens to the 1960s civil rights movement. The "social change" sought by CREW is the transformation of America into a nation that more fully embraces leftist values and policies. Toward this end, CREW strives to discredit conservatives and Republicans it deems vulnerable to attack, with the objective of decreasing their numbers in political offices nationwide. Thus the overwhelming majority of the public officials targeted by CREW are Republicans. In September 2006, the organization issued a 241-page report -- titled "Beyond [Tom] Delay: The 20 Most Corrupt Members of Congress” -- which named 17 Republicans and 3 Democrats. The report further listed 5 “Dishonorable Mentions” -- 4 Republicans and 1 Democrat. A similar disproportion has marked the political contributions made by CREW's Board members and staffers in recent years. Between 1995 and 2004, those individuals contributed $125,245 to Democrats and $16,013 to Republicans.

Citing the existence of conservative legal advocacy groups like Judicial Watch, the Rutherford Institute, and the National Legal and Policy Center, CREW says: “Conservative groups such as these have no real parallel in the progressive arena.” While acknowledging that there are numerous leftist groups that focus on research and legislation, CREW states that such organizations “do not use litigation to target outrageous conduct.” This is the niche that CREW has carved out for itself.

CREW was founded by Democrat activists Norm Eisen (an attorney) and Louis Mayberg (a prominent Democrat donor, and co-founder of the Maryland-based mutual fund management firm ProFund Advisors LLC). CREW’s "Form 990" IRS filing for 2001 lists Mayberg as one of its three Founding Directors; the other two are Daniel Berger (a high-profile Democrat donor who in 2004 made a $100,000 contribution to America Coming Together) and Mark Penn (a fellow at the New Politics Institute, and a top Democrat strategist and pollster who not only played a key role in Bill Clinton's 1996 presidential campaign, but also served as head of "message and strategy" for Hillary Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign).

 

[Hijinx]

CITIZENS FOR RESPONSIBILITY AND ETHICS IN WASHINGTON (CREW)


Established in 2001, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) describes itself as a “nonpartisan” public interest group that litigates and brings ethics charges against “government officials who sacrifice the common good to special interests” and “betray the public trust.”

CREW’s ultimate purpose is to use “the rule of law to bring about constructive social change” in a manner the organization likens to the 1960s civil rights movement. The "social change" sought by CREW is the transformation of America into a nation that more fully embraces leftist values and policies. Toward this end, CREW strives to discredit conservatives and Republicans it deems vulnerable to attack, with the objective of decreasing their numbers in political offices nationwide. Thus the overwhelming majority of the public officials targeted by CREW are Republicans. In September 2006, the organization issued a 241-page report -- titled "Beyond [Tom] Delay: The 20 Most Corrupt Members of Congress” -- which named 17 Republicans and 3 Democrats. The report further listed 5 “Dishonorable Mentions” -- 4 Republicans and 1 Democrat. A similar disproportion has marked the political contributions made by CREW's Board members and staffers in recent years. Between 1995 and 2004, those individuals contributed $125,245 to Democrats and $16,013 to Republicans.

Citing the existence of conservative legal advocacy groups like Judicial Watch, the Rutherford Institute, and the National Legal and Policy Center, CREW says: “Conservative groups such as these have no real parallel in the progressive arena.” While acknowledging that there are numerous leftist groups that focus on research and legislation, CREW states that such organizations “do not use litigation to target outrageous conduct.” This is the niche that CREW has carved out for itself.

CREW was founded by Democrat activists Norm Eisen (an attorney) and Louis Mayberg (a prominent Democrat donor, and co-founder of the Maryland-based mutual fund management firm ProFund Advisors LLC). CREW’s "Form 990" IRS filing for 2001 lists Mayberg as one of its three Founding Directors; the other two are Daniel Berger (a high-profile Democrat donor who in 2004 made a $100,000 contribution to America Coming Together) and Mark Penn (a fellow at the New Politics Institute, and a top Democrat strategist and pollster who not only played a key role in Bill Clinton's 1996 presidential campaign, but also served as head of "message and strategy" for Hillary Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign).

How much money do they get from Soros?

 

[GURPS]

So when will the courts clear this up?

Unfortunately, the answer may be never. As legal scholars like Jonathan Adler have noted, no one will be able to bring a lawsuit since, in legal speak, "the underlying controversy is almost certainly non-justiciable." This means any attempt to take Trump to task over conflict-of-interest will have to be political, like an impeachment, not legal.

Stephen Scott, an emeritus professor at McGill University, makes a similar argument, saying the Emoluments Clause is not suited to address ethical issues involving Trump's business empire.

"The issues debated here are too wide to be appropriately dealt with by the emoluments clause. They really have to be dealt with by rules or practices designed to address and avoid conflicts of interest. That’s the real subject. The tail cannot wag the dog. The emoluments clause cannot plausibly or workably be made to do the work of excluding conflicts of interest," said Scott in an email to Fortune.



http://fortune.com/2017/01/09/trump-emoluments/

 

[glhs837]

Ah, but the memes that will be unleashed. Now every slavering liberal on FB, Twitter, and who knows what else will become Interperts on emoulments. Just watch... they are just going for maximum staining.

 

[Hijinx]

Ah, but the memes that will be unleashed. Now every slavering liberal on FB, Twitter, and who knows what else will become Interperts on emoulments. Just watch... they are just going for maximum staining.

The two a-wipes in Maryland gave this Frosh clown a million dollars of my tax money to pay for extra lawyers to shove this sh1t sandwich.

 

[Gilligan]

Our great Attorney general here in Maryland.

...is pond scum.

 

[GURPS]

2. The lawsuit specifically cites Trump International Hotel in D.C. as operating in violation of the Constitution. Per The Washington Post:

After hiring staff and holding events to cater to foreign diplomats, the Embassy of Kuwait held an event at the hotel, switching its initial booking from the Four Seasons. Saudi Arabia, the destination of Trump’s first trip abroad, also booked rooms at the hotel through an intermediary on more than one occasion since Trump’s inauguration. Turkey held a state-sponsored event there last month. And in April, the ambassador of Georgia stayed at the hotel and tweeted his compliments. Trump himself has appeared at the hotel and greeted guests repeatedly since becoming president.

As a result, the hotel may be drawing business away from the taxpayer-owned D.C. convention center and one in nearby Maryland subsidized by taxpayers, [D.C. Attorney General Karl] Frosh and [Maryland] Attorney General Brian] Racine argue.​

4. The lawsuit attempts to pry out Trump's tax returns. The justification is that his tax returns are necessary to determine if Trump is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself.

It seems unlikely that the lawsuit will go anywhere given that the courts have never established a standard about what exactly violates the emoluments clauses. As Hot Air's Allahpundit has previously explained, all Trump has to do is prove to Congress that he hasn't received compensation that "wasn't far above what an arm's-length transaction might have been expected to produce." Unless the lawsuit can prove that, then it's unlikely it will cause the president much trouble.


http://www.dailywire.com/news/17455/4-things-you-need-know-about-dcmaryland-lawsuit-aaron-bandler

 

[Hijinx]

2. The lawsuit specifically cites Trump International Hotel in D.C. as operating in violation of the Constitution. Per The Washington Post:

After hiring staff and holding events to cater to foreign diplomats, the Embassy of Kuwait held an event at the hotel, switching its initial booking from the Four Seasons. Saudi Arabia, the destination of Trump’s first trip abroad, also booked rooms at the hotel through an intermediary on more than one occasion since Trump’s inauguration. Turkey held a state-sponsored event there last month. And in April, the ambassador of Georgia stayed at the hotel and tweeted his compliments. Trump himself has appeared at the hotel and greeted guests repeatedly since becoming president.

As a result, the hotel may be drawing business away from the taxpayer-owned D.C. convention center and one in nearby Maryland subsidized by taxpayers, [D.C. Attorney General Karl] Frosh and [Maryland] Attorney General Brian] Racine argue.​

4. The lawsuit attempts to pry out Trump's tax returns. The justification is that his tax returns are necessary to determine if Trump is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself.

It seems unlikely that the lawsuit will go anywhere given that the courts have never established a standard about what exactly violates the emoluments clauses. As Hot Air's Allahpundit has previously explained, all Trump has to do is prove to Congress that he hasn't received compensation that "wasn't far above what an arm's-length transaction might have been expected to produce." Unless the lawsuit can prove that, then it's unlikely it will cause the president much trouble.


http://www.dailywire.com/news/17455/4-things-you-need-know-about-dcmaryland-lawsuit-aaron-bandler

My taxes are paying for this BS. Frosh needs to be removed.

 

[glhs837]

My taxes are paying for this BS. Frosh needs to be removed.

But man, he's doing this for you.....

As a result, the hotel may be drawing business away from the taxpayer-owned D.C. convention center and one in nearby Maryland subsidized by taxpayers,

Of course, not mentioned is what the hell is MD doing subsidizing a convention center? Not competing, evidently, but that's to be expected, and yet another reason for the govt to get out of business it has no business in.

 

[GURPS]

But man, he's doing this for you.....

Of course, not mentioned is what the hell is MD doing subsidizing a convention center?

why not, we subsidize PRO Sports Teams worth billions

 

[stgislander]

So after reading Hogan's response here...

http://www.thebaynet.com/articles/0...esponsetoagslawsuitagainstpresidenttrump.html

is the AG and his office now a separate fourth branch of government?

 

[Hijinx]

Frosh claims President Trump is more focused on benefiting his businesses rather than benefiting the country. “This case is about the rights of hundreds of millions of Americans to honest government.

I claim that Attorney general Frosh is more focused on partisan politics than doing his job in benefiting Maryland.
This case is about Marylanders paying this Mother Trucker to stick his nose into National Partisan politics.

If I were an attorney I would file against Frosh.
He needs to be removed.

 

[glhs837]

why not, we subsidize PRO Sports Teams worth billions

Two wrongs........yadayada

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Here have some Maryland pride.