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  1. #201
    Just like two people can keep a secret only if one of them is dead....

    The only way to achieve peace is when we're the only ones left.

    Very little of the world respects or values diplomacy. They respect and value strength... or force.

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Wishbone View Post
    Just like two people can keep a secret only if one of them is dead....

    The only way to achieve peace is when we're the only ones left.

    Very little of the world respects or values diplomacy. They respect and value strength... or force.
    Switzerland's military isn't that big, but then again, they focus on a national defense. Not a defense and offense for more than one country, like we do.
    Crybaby Cripplecrow Hanging on a Monkey's Toe Club

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Switzerland's military isn't that big, but then again, they focus on a national defense. Not a defense and offense for more than one country, like we do.
    Isn't that the case with most countries? Very few - us, China, and Russia come to mind - are tooled up for power projection and fighting on foreign soil. Even North Korea; their massive military force is only intended for one local mission.
    You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. -Frank Zappa

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    Isn't that the case with most countries? Very few - us, China, and Russia come to mind - are tooled up for power projection and fighting on foreign soil. Even North Korea; their massive military force is only intended for one local mission.
    Sorta goes against the idea that "very little of the world respects or values diplomacy", no?
    Crybaby Cripplecrow Hanging on a Monkey's Toe Club

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Sorta goes against the idea that "very little of the world respects or values diplomacy", no?
    That's not my take-away, from studying world history all my life (I'm 59).

    You and Woodrow Wilson would have gotten along well.

    Quiz question: Where did the US military strength rank in the world when WWI began? Or WWII?

    Bonus question: "How did diplomatic efforts between Germany, France and England in the late 1930s work out for them?"
    Last edited by Gilligan; 06-16-2017 at 11:29 AM.
    You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. -Frank Zappa

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Sorta goes against the idea that "very little of the world respects or values diplomacy", no?
    No.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    That's not my take-away, from studying world history all my life (I'm 59).

    You and Woodrow Wilson would have gotten along well.
    Throw a little Neville in there too.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
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    The idea that an EO pivots on something it doesn't actually SAY but on interpreting something said six to ten months earlier on a campaign is on itself ridiculous.

    IANAL - actually I like that, because it SOUNDS crude - I don't see how this holds up. Trying to make an EO about religion when the WORDS of the EO show that it not only does no such thing but clearly bans people of ANY religion - is absurd.
    I have to think it has no merit and I wonder why it has any traction at all. It seems to me you should not be able to halt a ban without solid reason.
    “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.".Daniel Webster

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    The idea that an EO pivots on something it doesn't actually SAY but on interpreting something said six to ten months earlier on a campaign is on itself ridiculous.
    That is so bizarre. As I posted earlier, does this now mean that politicians will be held legally liable for every single thing they utter on the campaign trail? Wouldn't that be a sight to behold!
    You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. -Frank Zappa

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    That is so bizarre. As I posted earlier, does this now mean that politicians will be held legally liable for every single thing they utter on the campaign trail? Wouldn't that be a sight to behold!
    I'm suing Hillary for defamation.


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