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    I loved going with my folks to Baltimore in the summer (mid 60's) to spend a week with family. Baltimore was alive because people had work. Beth Steel was still making steel and building ships. When Beth Steel and the other industries died, so did Baltimore. Yeah, they tried to revitalize it with the Inner harbor and tourism, but the feeling is not the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinthrax View Post
    What angers me much are blacks who pass for white, who don't acknowledge their nationality or don't want to be part of their culture. These are the type who would prefer to mark "White" on a census form!
    So you adhere to the "one drop rule?"

    Seems harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishbone View Post
    So you adhere to the "one drop rule?"

    Seems harsh.
    These are full blown black who "pass for white". They try to make every effort to not acknowledge being black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stgislander View Post
    I loved going with my folks to Baltimore in the summer (mid 60's) to spend a week with family. Baltimore was alive because people had work. Beth Steel was still making steel and building ships. When Beth Steel and the other industries died, so did Baltimore. Yeah, they tried to revitalize it with the Inner harbor and tourism, but the feeling is not the same.
    Baltimore is largely a blue collar city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinthrax View Post
    A couple of things.

    1. I don't believe Paterson, NJ is the same at least in demographics compared to lets say Baltimore, MD etc.. I lived in Baltimore for 10 years, I believe Baltimore is predominantly black (like 85% to 90%) whereas Paterson, NJ is a 50/50 mix. An excerpt from Census 2010. "The racial makeup of the city was 34.68% (50,706) White, 31.68% (46,314) Black or African American". I don't feel that every major city that is failing or has it's mix of problems stem from African American issues. I know you did not directly say this, but I'm just getting it out of the way before it becomes that way.

    2. While I don't agree that "The US is the most racist country in the world", I do agree that DT ran his campaign on a ticket of racism, bigotry and Xenophobia. He placed all his bets that there exists a large enough group of those people in the United States that share this belief and won with it. In a way you can call him a Genius since many established and seasons politicians pretty much knew he would lose, but were wrong. While this "may" not make him a racist or bigot, his past history as well as behavior nowadays indicates him as a racist, he spends much of his time defending himself against little frivolous things, yet he dosen't do much defending himself against the many racist accusations.

    3. Your later comment regarding how "Our docent/racial scold also informed us that when a black man from a decent area that's not a ghetto #### hole comes around, they don't even recognize him as a black man.". In sociology we call "Passing" (Passing as White), this also relates to "Colourism". I find it somewhat of a disturbing and a difficult issue as I've dealt with this myself personally. Much of my mom's side is black (North Carolina). They are mainly poor, uneducated. They don't accept me since they feel that somehow I'm not part of them etc, since I"m educated, higher income and have a stable life. I make one of the highest salaries of anyone in my family (my parents, my mom's side etc...). I'm of mixed heritage and interestingly I find whites who treat me as white, blacks to treat me as black etc. It's an interesting part of race in this country. What angers me much are blacks who pass for white, who don't acknowledge their nationality or don't want to be part of their culture. These are the type who would prefer to mark "White" on a census form!

    4. I know many of these forums lean towards the conservative side of things, you listened to someone who was likely liberal. If I came in here and heard some conservative speech like this and came on here about how I disagreed with what was said. I guess much of the comments I would get would be he/she has 1st amendment or if I didn't like it I can leave or I'm a pussy liberal so deal with it etc...
    1: Paterson also has a large Latino and Arab population - predominantly first-generation immigrants, judging by the way none of them seemed to speak English. So you're right, it's not just the black people. And straight up, the white people didn't look none too respectable, either.

    2: Calling something what it is isn't "racist" or "bigoted". If fundy Muslims from certain countries are the ones blowing stuff up, it makes sense to restrict them coming into the US. If blacks in the ghetto are the ones rioting and busting stuff up, it makes sense to put a boot up their ass. Social culture is the real culprit - race is secondary to that and somewhat incidental, but what we tend to focus on.

    3: "What angers me much are blacks who pass for white, who don't acknowledge their nationality or don't want to be part of their culture. " Their nationality is American, and their culture can be anything they want it to be. I know way too many black people who are solid citizens, educated, family oriented, and responsible to think that ghetto gang banging, drugs, and unemployment is all-inclusive "black culture". To insist that black people must behave a certain way and speak a certain way is about the most racist thing I can think of.

    4: What mostly piqued my interest is that he felt completely comfortable, as a docent at an historical center and tourist attraction, chastising the white visitors and telling them how much they suck. Imagine a white docent telling black visitors that they suck and everything bad in the world is their fault and referencing "their" black president. Racism is racism. Doesn't matter what color the racist is. Racism on some public forum where people are spewing is one thing; I didn't expect to find it from the museum guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinthrax View Post
    These are full blown black who "pass for white". They try to make every effort to not acknowledge being black.
    What does that even mean, "pass for white" and "not acknowledge being black"? How would one "acknowledge" their blackness, in your opinion?

    What do you believe to be the differences between "whites" and "blacks", skin color aside?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinthrax View Post
    These are full blown black who "pass for white". They try to make every effort to not acknowledge being black.
    OK... Rachael Doleanz and Shaun King are pretending to be black.

    It all evens out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinthrax View Post
    A couple of things.

    I find it somewhat of a disturbing and a difficult issue as I've dealt with this myself personally. Much of my mom's side is black (North Carolina). They are mainly poor, uneducated. They don't accept me since they feel that somehow I'm not part of them etc, since I"m educated, higher income and have a stable life. I make one of the highest salaries of anyone in my family (my parents, my mom's side etc...).

    that is most unfortunate ...... you aren't 'black enough' because you are educated


    how the hell did we even get here ?
    no wonder can't / don't / won't excel in school ....
    they are denigrated and put down ...
    better to be ignorant standing in front of the liquor store all day
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovinmaryland View Post
    The original white devil!
    What an a-hole liberal POS that guy has turned out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    What an a-hole liberal POS that guy has turned out to be.
    I can honestly say I've only found two of his films watchable.

    Bruce Almighty and Me, Myself and Irene ( Barely )

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