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    Quote Originally Posted by PsyOps View Post
    Trump didn't appoint Mueller, Rosenstein did. I'm sure Rosenstein consulted with Trump and other parts of the administration, and they gave him their nod. But I have stated over and over that, given what Comey has done in this who debacle, it made no sense to pick Mueller. I think allowing a special counsel in the first place was a mistake. I said it was a mistake for Trump to keep Comey on; and it's all coming back to bite him in the ass. There's some serious short-sightedness going on in the Trump admin.

    It all revolves back to - ever person that believes there is a 'there' there also say there is nothing there. THAT is the BS narrative.
    that's an understatement

    If trump didn't personally approve of Mueller than he deserves what he gets. However, I would bet that he and his closest advisors picked Mueller.

    As to what is there, that's what the investigation is for. We won't know, and I am not sure how you could expect anyone to know, if they don't investigate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightrider View Post
    If trump didn't personally approve of Mueller than he deserves what he gets.
    This is a really interesting statement, and is very revealing about your thinking about this whole thing. Trump should get what he deserves based on evidence, not who is investigating or prosecuting him. Your statement implies that the system is indeed corrupt and only used for revenge and taking down political enemies, and that Trump will either get a fair shake (things go his way despite the facts), or not a fair shake (things don't go his way despite the facts).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightrider View Post
    As to what is there, that's what the investigation is for. We won't know, and I am not sure how you could expect anyone to know, if they don't investigate it.
    We've been over this... in order for someone to accuse me of something, they have first have evidence for an investigation to proceed. You cannot launch an investigation against me simply based on your suspicion that I might have done something wrong. This whole thing is completely backwards. Not one person has been able say they have one shred of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. So the whole investigation is based on suspicions and a belief that Trump must be guilty of something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsyOps View Post
    This is a really interesting statement, and is very revealing about your thinking about this whole thing. Trump should get what he deserves based on evidence, not who is investigating or prosecuting him. Your statement implies that the system is indeed corrupt and only used for revenge and taking down political enemies, and that Trump will either get a fair shake (things go his way despite the facts), or not a fair shake (things don't go his way despite the facts).
    what you infer says a lot more about you than what it says about me. I didn't say or imply any of that, but go on with your bad self. My point was simply that if trump didn't do his due diligence and he ended up with a guy that he now thinks is too close to comey, that's his own damn fault. I think Mueller will give trump a fair investigation, this entire bromance is simply the trump admin trying to trash the guy because he is going in a direction they don't like.
    Quote Originally Posted by PsyOps View Post
    We've been over this... in order for someone to accuse me of something, they have first have evidence for an investigation to proceed. You cannot launch an investigation against me simply based on your suspicion that I might have done something wrong. This whole thing is completely backwards. Not one person has been able say they have one shred of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. So the whole investigation is based on suspicions and a belief that Trump must be guilty of something.
    that's just not the way it works. If I reported you to the police for beating your children they would investigate. Hell, if I reported you for leaving your dog in a hot car or tied to a tree the police would investigate it. Suspicion is all a LEO needs to begin an investigation. They may need evidence for charges, but they don't need any for an investigation.


    BTW, this whole investigation is based on trump team members who had questionable dealings with the Russians and then acted shady about it. if not for the people trump chose to surround himself with and their actions there wouldn't be any investigation, let alone one where trump is involved. Considering Mueller is likely investigating Trump now, I would guess that there is some 'there' there. We will see. that's how investigations go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightrider View Post
    As to what is there, that's what the investigation is for. We won't know, and I am not sure how you could expect anyone to know, if they don't investigate it.
    So, you would investigate pizzagate? How about potential collusion by the mafia into the IRS scandal? I mean, we know there's no REASON to investigate, but we'll never know for sure if they don't investigate, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    Um, why didn't anyone know about this before Mueller was appointed?
    This Comey/Mueller relationship is no secret. Never was. The Administration should've known that.

    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    Obviously if he has a personal relationship with Comey, he needs to get gone because he is compromised.
    What personal relationship? They both have past working relationship in the Justice Dept. On May 23rd, the Administration's Justice Dept's Ethics panel declared Mueller ethically able to function as special counsel.

    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    But why wasn't this known before he was appointed???
    It was known before he was appointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    The fact that Comey admitted that he leaked his own information to the media through a friend of his in order to get a Special prosecutor should be enough to toss out the Special Prosecutor.
    Why? Did Comey appoint the Special Council.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awpitt View Post
    Why? Did Comey appoint the Special Council.
    The Special Counsel gives Mueller a license to go fishing, and he is already doing that. Now he is investigating Trump for Obstruction of Justice.
    Obviously for firing his friend---Comey.

    Like I have said before he could bleed the US Treasury for a ton of money and investigate for the next 4 years unless the Republicans grow some balls and cut off the funding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    The Special Counsel gives Mueller a license to go fishing
    You do realize that Mueller is the special counsel, right?

    You also realize that Trump's DOJ (which Chris Wray, a Trump appointment, runs), chose Mueller, right? Specifically, Rod Rosenstein (the guy who wrote the letter recommending Comey be fired) appointed Mueller. Rosenstein was appointed by Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    You do realize that Mueller is the special counsel, right?

    You also realize that Trump's DOJ (which Chris Wray, a Trump appointment, runs), chose Mueller, right? Specifically, Rod Rosenstein (the guy who wrote the letter recommending Comey be fired) appointed Mueller. Rosenstein was appointed by Trump.
    I don't really give a #### about any of that BS. Mueller is the Special Counsel and he is out for blood, and his position is a fishing expedition.
    What you liberals are saying is that Trump made a mistake in appointing Rosenstein, and his mistake is coming back top haunt him.

    OK; I agree Trump ####ed up and now he has to deal with this Mueller prick.
    Trump has made a lot of mistakes his first one was in not firing Comey the first day he was inaugurated.
    His next mistake was in not having Sessions prepare a case against Hillary.
    He makes mistakes we all do I would like to see him stop making them , but If I had to vote tomorrow for him or Hillary I would vote for him.

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