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    And while we remain eternally distracted...

    ...some things happening in the rest of the world should probably concern us more.

    China, the U.S., Japan and Vietnam are all expecting war. China may have claimed all of the South China Sea but Vietnam still has 17 island bases there. These are a major long-term embarrassment to China. Vietnam will not give them up voluntarily so China will attempt to remove them by force – thus the current buildup of China’s amphibious warfare capability. China would also attack Vietnam along their land border to put maximum pressure on Hanoi.



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    So do we get involved or stay our busybody asses out of it?

    Honestly, and I may be incorrect in my thinking, but I feel like we owe Vietnam one so if China kicks their ass that won't hurt my feelings any.

    Unfortunately, we're getting closer and closer to Nineteen-Eighty-Four being a reality and reading as a history book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    So do we get involved or stay our busybody asses out of it?
    Good question. Once China has achieved their goal of taking over and integrating the entire region...do we care about the demise of so many once-independent countries? And where will they voluntarily stop and decide they've acquired "enough"?

    Interesting view of Vietnam. I tend to see that situation in the reverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    Good question. Once China has achieved their goal of taking over and integrating the entire region...do we care about the demise of so many once-independent countries? And where will they voluntarily stop and decide they've acquired "enough"?

    Interesting view of Vietnam. I tend to see that situation in the reverse.
    They weren't really independent nations in the first place. most are former puppets for China or U.S.S.R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    Good question. Once China has achieved their goal of taking over and integrating the entire region...do we care about the demise of so many once-independent countries? And where will they voluntarily stop and decide they've acquired "enough"?
    Exactly.

    Interesting view of Vietnam. I tend to see that situation in the reverse.
    Please elaborate. I'm willing to change my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishbone View Post
    They weren't really independent nations in the first place. most are former puppets for China or U.S.S.R.
    ? Taiwan?...all of Indochina?...Japanese islands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    Exactly.



    Please elaborate. I'm willing to change my mind.
    A fiercely proud and nationalistic country (going back many centuries), led to believe that they would be free to establish an independent country following WWII, after decades of colonial rule, fought tenaciously for more than 20 straight years all outside attempts by foreign nations (French and, later, US-led coalition) to subsequently deny them that. And eventually won.

    That's the simple history in a too-short summary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    So do we get involved or stay our busybody asses out of it?
    Is it worth American lives?
    "Never let the old man in." - Clint Eastwood quoting an old friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsyOps View Post
    Is it worth American lives?
    And if so..why? And..at what point, if ever? Like WWII in Europe...Hitler kept taking..a little here..a bunch there...

    And maybe "so what" if China ends up controlling that entire region of the world. Except Japan?...or including Japan? Australia would be OK, right?...or not? Malaysia and Indonesia? China claims islands that are part of the PI...what about them? Or just assume the PI will become part of the Chinese empire...
    Last edited by Gilligan; 06-16-2017 at 10:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    ? Taiwan?...all of Indochina?...Japanese islands?
    I'm thinking more in line with Vietnam, Laos, the remainder of the little crap in that region.

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