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    Quote Originally Posted by stgislander View Post
    But I you said you won't do business with the DOD and their subcontractors because they are all gay....
    Did you have a point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stgislander View Post
    But I you said you won't do business with the DOD and their subcontractors because they are all gay....
    How can I tell if a customer is a pole smoker when I sell wholesale only through email and a fax machine,,,,,, how do i know???? HOW DO I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    How can I tell if a customer is a pole smoker when I sell wholesale only through email and a fax machine,,,,,, how do i know???? HOW DO I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!
    When he has a problem and you give him a new item for free. Plus double his money back and he still wants to whine.....just sayin'
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    How is it that you don't see how crazy you sound when you do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapidus View Post
    It is in the the best interest of state and local government to see that all of their citizens are treated equally.
    See, as a citizen I rarely have a reason to care what is in the government's "best interest." I am far more concerned with what is in the "best interest" of the citizen, and what authorities the government has.

    Can you provide me with the constitutional authority (meaning, where does the constitution provide the government the authority) to prohibit one citizen from rejecting another citizen's request for work?

  5. #305
    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    How can I tell if a customer is a pole smoker when I sell wholesale only through email and a fax machine,,,,,, how do i know???? HOW DO I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!
    The same is true for this baker. How did the baker know that the cake request was for a same-sex wedding? If the partners simply asked for a cake without specifying in some way what it was for, and thus involving the baker in the ceremony, this would never have been an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    The same is true for this baker. How did the baker know that the cake request was for a same-sex wedding? If the partners simply asked for a cake without specifying in some way what it was for, and thus involving the baker in the ceremony, this would never have been an issue.
    So you are saying the gay couple only need hide their gayness and everything would be fine? Should black customers have their white friends buy cakes for them ? Should latinos have someone else call in their order on not show their faces? What is wrong with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapidus View Post
    So you are saying the gay couple only need hide their gayness and everything would be fine? Should black customers have their white friends buy cakes for them ? Should latinos have someone else call in their order on not show their faces? What is wrong with you?
    I see the point being made here...it's likely that the couple's proclivities were abundantly clear, anyway.
    Kind of like how Sappy says he's intelligent and open-minded, but he can't hide his true colors behind that facade in this forum, where you'd think that's where one could mislead others!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapidus View Post
    So you are saying the gay couple only need hide their gayness and everything would be fine? Should black customers have their white friends buy cakes for them ? Should latinos have someone else call in their order on not show their faces? What is wrong with you?
    I will answer all four of those questions if you provide me with the constitutional authority (meaning, where does the constitution provide the government the authority) to prohibit one citizen from rejecting another citizen's request for work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    I will answer all four of those questions if you provide me with the constitutional authority (meaning, where does the constitution provide the government the authority) to prohibit one citizen from rejecting another citizen's request for work.
    You've asked that biased questions based on your flawed belief that the government should not regulate peoples lives by telling them who to "work for" as you so biasedly put it..

    The law in question in this case is the public accommodation law with the judges have ruled applies to gay people in this circumstance.

    So although you state it as the reverse to further you case " force someone to work against their will "the Public accommodation law does just that if that is how you want to interpret it. Though the true interpretation without your "all men are free idiocy" is the assurance that " all men are treated equally.


    Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 defines public accommodations as a limited number of facilities which are open to the public. Examples include hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce; exempted private clubs without defining the term "private"

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    Easy solution for the bakery's is to work exclusively through selected local churches.

    Wedding cakes can only be arranged through that venue. No walk-in wedding cake orders.

    That will restrict your clientele... And its legal.

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