Pope - Marxist / Socialist Actions

[GURPS]

Angry Pope: 'America Has A Distorted Vision Of The World'


The Pope said America is among nations that have a "distorted vision of the world."

"I worry about very dangerous alliances among powers that have a distorted vision of the world: America and Russia, China and North Korea, Putin and Assad in the war in Syria," he said in an interview with the Italian newspaper La Repubblica.

Directing his comments toward world leaders gathered in Germany for the G20 summit, Francis said the meeting of the world's top economies worries him.

"Our main and unfortunately growing problem in the world today is that of the poor, the weak, the excluded, which includes migrants," said Francis, the first pope in 1,300 years to come from a nation outside Europe. "This is why the G20 worries me: It mainly hits immigrants."

Francis told world leaders that Europe is the "richest continent in the whole world" and that leaders there should not close borders. Conflict across the Middle East and Africa have forced millions to flee their homes, making them refugees. But few problems were solved at the G20 — while leaders agreed to support free trade, there was no consensus on how to deal with the refugee problem.

 

[Wishbone]

Tell him to start putting up refugees at the Vatican if he's so much in favor of the flood.

 

[PsyOps]

But few problems were solved at the G20 — while leaders agreed to support free trade, there was no consensus on how to deal with the refugee problem.

And what has the Vatican offered up to solve the problem? Lip service! Quite honestly, what has the Catholic Church done to solve any of the world's problems? If the CC is going to stick their nose into this situation with their innuendo, then perhaps, with the power of the CC and Vatican, it's time to step and offer some solutions instead of just talking about how poorly the rest of the world is handling it.

Oh, and........................... TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!

 

[SamSpade]

And what has the Vatican offered up to solve the problem? Lip service! Quite honestly, what has the Catholic Church done to solve any of the world's problems?

I'm not ready to fault all of the world's Catholics and churches based on the mouthiness of one pontiff. I do think he should stick to his job as a spiritual leader and stop posing as a political one.

Try to remember that people like Mother Theresa and Father Damien (the priest who worked specifically with lepers) were Catholics.
While there ARE Catholic leaders who live like royalty, there are countless priests, nuns and lay members who do work that could only be called saintly.
It didn't surprise me at all to find - when we were planning adoptions - the largest adoption organization - is Catholic.

Again, that said - he's really beginning to PISS me off. At least some of his more humble predecessors practiced what they preached.

 

[stgislander]

Doesn't Francis come from the Liberation Theology school?

 

[vraiblonde]

I'm not ready to fault all of the world's Catholics and churches based on the mouthiness of one pontiff.

I am. He's not *a* pontiff, he's *the* pontiff and the leader of the Catholic Church. American Catholics should get rid of him, or denounce him, or form their own religion. If they worship a religious leader who betrays their values, they are cult members - no different than Moonies, Scientologists, or the Manson Family.

Which is fine - Catholics can turn their religion into a destructive cult if they want. Just don't pretend to have any moral high ground while you do it.

 

[GURPS]

I am not sure a Pope can be removed that easily - the pope is considered 'infallible' while in office - i.e. the pope makes NO mistakes


that said, I've had enough of the Marxist jackass




I am amused no one has posted about the gay orgy

Vatican police 'break up drug-fuelled gay orgy at home of secretary of one of Pope Francis's key advisers'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4667098/Vatican-police-break-gay-orgy-apartment.html
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[black dog]

I am not sure a Pope can be removed that easily - the pope is considered 'infallible' while in office - i.e. the pope makes NO mistakes


that said, I've had enough of the Marxist jackass




I am amused no one has posted about the gay orgy

Vatican police 'break up drug-fuelled gay orgy at home of secretary of one of Pope Francis's key advisers'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4667098/Vatican-police-break-gay-orgy-apartment.html
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

At least this time it was with adults and not Alter Boys.

 

[GURPS]

At least this time it was with adults and not Alter Boys.

Right .....

 

[SamSpade]

I am. He's not *a* pontiff, he's *the* pontiff and the leader of the Catholic Church. American Catholics should get rid of him

American Catholics don't have the clout - there are 1.25 BILLION Catholics in the world, and there are about 65 million in the U.S. They don't have a lot to say about it anyway.

And the papacy is not a democracy - the people have no say in who their leaders are. They don't vote. They never have.
They don't get to vote on their parish priest and they don't vote on their bishops or cardinals. You might not like that, but the idea of "voting" in your religious leaders is barely a concept in the world anymore than students get to vote on who their teacher would be.

The Catholic Church has survived as it is for about 1500 years (longer, if you believe Catholics and not historians). It's had some real "winners" as Popes (and I mean that pejoratively).
It's also had really great Popes in recent history such as John Paul II and John 23rd. The last Pope lasted a mere eight years, and he was a jerk too.

I was brought up Catholic and went to Catholic schools, although I left around college - and I can tell you that despite what you might think, having every Catholic in the world agree with the Pope is a lot like the idea of herding cats - you just don't get a billion people to fall in line anymore than you get tens of millions of Republicans or Democrats to agree on an issue. American Catholics trust their Pope as a religious leader, but I can guarantee you that you already know some Catholics who don't agree with his political remarks. In that respect, he no more speaks for Catholics than Trump does for Americans when it comes to meat loaf.

 

[Monello]

I am amused no one has posted about the gay orgy

Vatican police 'break up drug-fuelled gay orgy at home of secretary of one of Pope Francis's key advisers'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4667098/Vatican-police-break-gay-orgy-apartment.html
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You must have me on ignore.

Cops-bust-dopey-gay-vatican-orgy

 

[SamSpade]

I am not sure a Pope can be removed that easily - the pope is considered 'infallible' while in office - i.e. the pope makes NO mistakes

Only when speaking ex cathedra - matters specifically pertaining to church doctrine. In all other things, he's considered like anyone else.

 

[GURPS]

You must have me on ignore.

Cops-bust-dopey-gay-vatican-orgy

nope ...... missed that

 

[Wishbone]

American Catholics don't have the clout - there are 1.25 BILLION Catholics in the world, and there are about 65 million in the U.S. They don't have a lot to say about it anyway.

I'd guess a substantial amount of the churches wealth is coming from the U.S. rather than Mexico or Italy.

 

[Monello]

American Catholics there are about 65 million in the U.S.

Imagine if they voted in a bloc.

[FONT=&quot]Donald Trump's votes - 62,979,636[/FONT]

 

[GURPS]

.... having every Catholic in the world agree with the Pope is a lot like the idea of herding cats - you just don't get a billion people to fall in line anymore than you get tens of millions of Republicans or Democrats to agree on an issue.

how many congress critters are Catholic - but democrat [that is not an exclusive]
and support birth control at the least and planed parent hood at the worst


the likes of Nancy Pelosi should have been excommunicated decades ago

 

[SamSpade]

Imagine if they voted in a bloc.

American Catholics tend to vote more with their ethnic identity than with their religious identity. They're funny that way. Kind of like American Jews.
So an Irish or Polish Catholic statistically votes like an Irish American and not for their *religion* or religious views.

Since a huge portion of American Catholics are working class - they've tended to vote Democratic - until recently, when Trump won the Catholic vote - by a lot.

 

[SamSpade]

how many congress critters are Catholic - but democrat [that is not an exclusive]
and support birth control at the least and planed parent hood at the worst


the likes of Nancy Pelosi should have been excommunicated decades ago

Quite a lot - about a fourth of the Senate and about a third of the House. And you know a lot of them.
Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, Steve Scalise - and Nancy Pelosi and Charlie Rangel.

I think that much there proves my point - CATHOLICS usually don't mix their religion with politics.
At least not in the United States.

 

[vraiblonde]

And the papacy is not a democracy - the people have no say in who their leaders are. They don't vote. They never have.

Then mainstream Catholics should renounce the Pope and start their own church. It's like that old RINO argument: leaders of the cult/religion/political party are not the INOs - they are the Rs. If you don't agree with their agenda, it is you who are the INO. Catholics who don't agree with the Pope are "in name only" and not real Catholics. So why not dump the Pope's cult and form your own religion that is more in line with your beliefs? Or join an existing religion that reflects your beliefs and values?

 

[vraiblonde]

I admit I am baffled by devotion to a specific religion. Devotion to God - I get that. But being devoted to a particular religion to the point that you'll overlook malfeasance and make excuses for poor behavior is a cult, not a true religion.