Alabama ABC says 'no' to Margaritaville with pitcher ban

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Alabama code section 28-3A-25(a)(9) which says it is unlawful:

For any person to fortify, adulterate, contaminate, or in any manner change the character or purity of alcoholic beverages from that as originally marketed by the manufacturer, except that a retail licensee on order from a customer may mix a chaser or other ingredients necessary to prepare a cocktail or mixed drink for on-premises consumption.

To most of us, this code section looks like a provision to prevent people from watering down booze or selling knock-off versions--for example cutting a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle bourbon with inferior spirits and selling it to unsuspecting customers. The last part with the clear exception for preparing a cocktail for on-premises consumption would seem to remove any doubt.

Yet to the ABC, this provision apparently means that pitchers of margaritas adulterate the tequila in such a manner that renders it a hazard for unsuspecting consumers of tacos and burritos.

According to ABC's Dean Argo, a rather nice gentleman tasked with explaining ABC's silliness, the alcohol in a pitcher tends to settle over time. "The person who is poured the first or second drink may receive only a .25 to .5 ounce of alcohol," he noted, "where a person receiving the third, fourth or even fifth pour may receive much more alcohol than mix."

In short, a group of legal adults can't figure out how to handle a pitcher of margaritas shared among them. If you didn't hear about the bedlam recently caused by Taco Mama in Homewood, Alabama serving pitchers of margaritas, it's because some adults in Alabama are capable of sharing a beverage in a manner that actually avoids Margarita Madness. Don't worry though; the ABC has put an end to the restaurant's perilous pitchers.

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/07/alabama_abc_says_no_to_margari.html


the gov is here to save you from getting the 1st 'Rita out of a pitcher with little or no alcohol
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Alabama code section 28-3A-25(a)(9) which says it is unlawful:

For any person to fortify, adulterate, contaminate, or in any manner change the character or purity of alcoholic beverages from that as originally marketed by the manufacturer, except that a retail licensee on order from a customer may mix a chaser or other ingredients necessary to prepare a cocktail or mixed drink for on-premises consumption.

To most of us, this code section looks like a provision to prevent people from watering down booze or selling knock-off versions--for example cutting a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle bourbon with inferior spirits and selling it to unsuspecting customers. The last part with the clear exception for preparing a cocktail for on-premises consumption would seem to remove any doubt.

Yet to the ABC, this provision apparently means that pitchers of margaritas adulterate the tequila in such a manner that renders it a hazard for unsuspecting consumers of tacos and burritos.

According to ABC's Dean Argo, a rather nice gentleman tasked with explaining ABC's silliness, the alcohol in a pitcher tends to settle over time. "The person who is poured the first or second drink may receive only a .25 to .5 ounce of alcohol," he noted, "where a person receiving the third, fourth or even fifth pour may receive much more alcohol than mix."

In short, a group of legal adults can't figure out how to handle a pitcher of margaritas shared among them. If you didn't hear about the bedlam recently caused by Taco Mama in Homewood, Alabama serving pitchers of margaritas, it's because some adults in Alabama are capable of sharing a beverage in a manner that actually avoids Margarita Madness. Don't worry though; the ABC has put an end to the restaurant's perilous pitchers.

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/07/alabama_abc_says_no_to_margari.html


the gov is here to save you from getting the 1st 'Rita out of a pitcher with little or no alcohol

Doubt this is germane to the thread, but in New Orleans they sell frozen drinks in the street.
Basically a slurpee with alcohol. I guess no one minds about that.
You would get sick from the slurpee long before it would make you drunk.
The alcohol content is barely discernible.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
Doubt this is germane to the thread, but in New Orleans they sell frozen drinks in the street.
Basically a slurpee with alcohol. I guess no one minds about that.
You would get sick from the slurpee long before it would make you drunk.
The alcohol content is barely discernible.

Shhhiiiittttttt.

Fat Tuesdays rocks. They certainly have some "slurpees" with high enough alcohol content.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
I'm surprised they get away with that in Alabama. You'd think the 'Bamas would burn them out of their homes for playing with their alcohol.

This is the problem with regulation wonks - they end up chasing their tail.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Doubt this is germane to the thread, but in New Orleans they sell frozen drinks in the street.
Basically a slurpee with alcohol. I guess no one minds about that.


I saw that in 1992 when I was down on Bourbon St. every shack at the end of an alley was selling 'Hurricanes'
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
... And as you tilt the pitcher to pour it becomes a moot point if it ever was.

if you know all the booze is at the bottom, stir the pitcher ....... this is just some ABC Board member(s) justifying their existence
 

Lurk

Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
"The person who is poured the first or second drink may receive only a .25 to .5 ounce of alcohol," he noted, "where a person receiving the third, fourth or even fifth pour may receive much more alcohol than mix."
If this process was true (that the alcohol settles to the bottom of the pitcher) drivers who want to drink would throw out the bottom third of their can of beer/cocktail in order to blow a lower alcohol content. The ABC obviously failed high school chemistry when they dreamed up this explanation.
 

Wishbone

New Member
If this process was true (that the alcohol settles to the bottom of the pitcher) drivers who want to drink would throw out the bottom third of their can of beer/cocktail in order to blow a lower alcohol content. The ABC obviously failed high school chemistry when they dreamed up this explanation.

I had that thought as well. If anything of it were true the first pour would be high octane.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
Bama has some funny rules on booze. I am in Huntsville today. Big official looking sign behind the bar: All mixed beverages contain 1.25floz of alcohol unless requested otherwise.
They seem to be deathly afraid of people getting drinks they don't know the exact alcohol content of.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
And technically the ABC is of course correct. In a frozen margarita, the. Booze collects at the bottom. I just don't think it is 'tampering'. Beer is the same way, there is no alcohol in the foam.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
And yet we have been assured by people who would know that Alabama is developing a rather impressive heroin problem, especially in rural areas.

But hey, let's worry about margaritas instead.

:dork:
 

black dog

Free America
So is West Virginia, and they don't have an ABC.

West Virginia (Control State)
West Virginia Alcohol Beverage Control Commission
Enforcement & Licensing Division
322 70th St. S.E.
Charleston, West Virginia 25304-2900
Phone: 304/558-2481 toll free 800-642-8208
Fax: 304/558-0081
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
West Virginia (Control State)
West Virginia Alcohol Beverage Control Commission
Enforcement & Licensing Division
322 70th St. S.E.
Charleston, West Virginia 25304-2900
Phone: 304/558-2481 toll free 800-642-8208
Fax: 304/558-0081

Right, but not quite the same thing. Same name though, but I should have specificied "...don't have an ABC like Alabama."

Alabama's ABC means liquor stores are run by the state. While WV's ABC used to be like that, that changed in 1990 and liquor stores are publicly run with WV's ABC essentially the same as we have here in MD in the sense that they control liquor licenses. They do, however, control liquor wholesaling.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
Nutty liquor laws are a bible thumper thing. In VA you have to get a liquor license to pour a drink for your personal guests.
 
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