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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Not what I'm saying.
    It seemed like it when you said, "...watch as usage rates and potency of drugs continue to remain constant..."

    What is the goal of the current method and current "war on drugs"?
    As near as I can figure, it is to ensure drug prices remain high and the government can continually take more and more freedom from citizens scared about drug gangs and such. It didn't work in the Prohibition Era, and there's no reason or evidence to believe the current method of the "war on drugs" would ever be any more effective than back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsbob View Post
    The only thing I have to add.. Is Ridge volunteers had their meeting last week, and during the meeting they released the number of calls they went out on last year (I have to admit, I don't know if this is the FD or the Rescue Squad) but they went out on 7400 calls last year.

    We had volunteer ambulance and FD in PA as well, but every time they got called out they billed the caller's insurance. I don't understand why we don't do the same. It's a legal bill, insurance covers the costs (in PA over 13 years ago it was $500 a call) and with Obamacare the poorest of us SHOULD have coverage, why aren't our volunteer services providing a service for free, that's covered by insurance??

    How much difference would 3.7Million make to their fundraising goals?? New Equipment? New Carnival rides (#1 Priority!!)? Property improvement??

    I honestly don't see WHY we don't bill an insurance company EVERYtime they get a call out for fire or rescue.
    Whooooo Horsey, 7,400 ? How many are really calls?
    365 days a year
    Two trucks at breakfast,lunch and dinner leave the firehouse to eat or pickup food.
    Instantly removes 4.380 calls.. I mean it is Ridge..
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    It seemed like it when you said, "...watch as usage rates and potency of drugs continue to remain constant..."
    But you asked about crime rates. Maybe I'm confused.

    Regardless, we've been told for decades that the goal is to get people to stop using drugs, among other things. By every measurable metric, it seems the war on drugs has been a failure, yet folks think we should continue down the same path. I can understand that coming from politicians, lawyers, police, and others who rely on this war for money, gear, etc. but I'm wondering why citizens still believe this is the best way to win a "war on drugs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    Whooooo Horsey, 7,400 ? How many are really calls?
    365 days a year
    Two trucks at breakfast,lunch and dinner leave the firehouse to eat or pickup food.
    Instantly removes 4.380 calls.. I mean it is Ridge..
    Well, considering there are SEVERAL southern MD citizens that feel the Ambulance is a free Taxi to Leonardtown, and the uptick in OD calls.. BUT I have to say, if this is ONLY Rescue Squad calls, it seems we're well beyond the need for Full Time paid services... Seems a little much to expect for a free voluntary workforce.

    BUT, again.. I have to wonder what their reasoning is for NOT billing insurance companies and Medicare/ Medicaid?? You know all of the huge metropolises do and are pocketing BILLIONS of dollars.. while we sell cotton candy at our local fairgrounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    Whooooo Horsey, 7,400 ? How many are really calls?
    365 days a year
    Two trucks at breakfast,lunch and dinner leave the firehouse to eat or pickup food.
    Instantly removes 4.380 calls.. I mean it is Ridge..
    7,400 might be a couple of decades worth of calls. The websites for Ridge VFD ( http://www.ridgevfd.org/ ) says that they had 207 calls in 2016 and 107 so far this year, the rescue squad site ( http://www.ridgevrs.org/ ) says that they had 775 calls in 2016 and 240 so far this year.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Ken King View Post
    7,400 might be a couple of decades worth of calls. The websites for Ridge VFD ( http://www.ridgevfd.org/ ) says that they had 207 calls in 2016 and 107 so far this year, the rescue squad site ( http://www.ridgevrs.org/ ) says that they had 775 calls in 2016 and 240 so far this year.
    That's what I'm saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken King View Post
    7,400 might be a couple of decades worth of calls. The websites for Ridge VFD ( http://www.ridgevfd.org/ ) says that they had 207 calls in 2016 and 107 so far this year, the rescue squad site ( http://www.ridgevrs.org/ ) says that they had 775 calls in 2016 and 240 so far this year.
    You picked Ridge. Probably the slowest squad in the County. Try Lexington Parks site, they had 7,000 calls last year
    I would bet they are ahead of that this year.
    I don't know the reason for not charging in St. Mary';s but Charles County charges.

    It is really a rip off of the insurance companies, since they are the only ones who pay.
    Private individuals seldom pay and are not forced to pay.
    Then who do they pay. The Rescue Squad who makes the call or the County.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    You picked Ridge. Probably the slowest squad in the County. Try Lexington Parks site, they had 7,000 calls last year
    I would bet they are ahead of that this year.
    I don't know the reason for not charging in St. Mary';s but Charles County charges.

    It is really a rip off of the insurance companies, since they are the only ones who pay.
    Private individuals seldom pay and are not forced to pay.
    Then who do they pay. The Rescue Squad who makes the call or the County.
    yep, I was wrong on my number by a lot.. but I think their numbers not very accurate.. looking at their calendar they have 6 or 7 months with no incidents.. and then Jan/ Feb are in the 60s and 70s...

    755 seems more logical.. 2 calls a day (give or take).. but still.. COULD be 350K they aren't receiving.

    Part of the deal in PA for billing was NO collections.. either insurance paid it or didn't.. no reporting, no collections to the individual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    But you asked about crime rates. Maybe I'm confused.

    Regardless, we've been told for decades that the goal is to get people to stop using drugs, among other things. By every measurable metric, it seems the war on drugs has been a failure, yet folks think we should continue down the same path. I can understand that coming from politicians, lawyers, police, and others who rely on this war for money, gear, etc. but I'm wondering why citizens still believe this is the best way to win a "war on drugs".
    I believe that the law should be enforced unless or until it is changed. As I have said many times before, I think going after the supplier is stupid and proven to be a failure. Go after the user and make the supplying be unprofitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    You picked Ridge. Probably the slowest squad in the County. Try Lexington Parks site, they had 7,000 calls last year
    I would bet they are ahead of that this year.
    I don't know the reason for not charging in St. Mary';s but Charles County charges.

    It is really a rip off of the insurance companies, since they are the only ones who pay.
    Private individuals seldom pay and are not forced to pay.
    Then who do they pay. The Rescue Squad who makes the call or the County.
    I picked Ridge because Bob was talking about Ridge :moron:

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