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    Well that is Enlightened of Him

    Schiff: Washington Democrats meeting with Ukrainian officials for Trump dirt would have been 'inappropriate'


    California Rep. Adam Schiff said Sunday that fellow Washington Democrats acted “inappropriately” if they indeed met with Ukrainian officials to get potentially damaging information on 2016 GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump -- amid widespread probes, allegations and revelations about the Trump campaign meeting with Russian officials to try to derail Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

    “It wouldn’t be appropriate for the Democrats to get help from the Ukrainian government,” Schiff, the top Democrat on the House's Intelligence committee, which is investigating the Russian meddling, told ABC’s “This Week.” “It would be problematic to get any kind of support from a foreign government.”
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    Schiff: Washington Democrats meeting with Ukrainian officials for Trump dirt would have been 'inappropriate'


    California Rep. Adam Schiff said Sunday that fellow Washington Democrats acted “inappropriately” if they indeed met with Ukrainian officials to get potentially damaging information on 2016 GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump -- amid widespread probes, allegations and revelations about the Trump campaign meeting with Russian officials to try to derail Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

    “It wouldn’t be appropriate for the Democrats to get help from the Ukrainian government,” Schiff, the top Democrat on the House's Intelligence committee, which is investigating the Russian meddling, told ABC’s “This Week.” “It would be problematic to get any kind of support from a foreign government.”
    CNN doesn't agree with him, Russia's worse so the Ukrainians are a nothing story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin99 View Post
    CNN doesn't agree with him, Russia's worse so the Ukrainians are a nothing story.

    This is what I don't get - the Trump story is a case of a Russian coming to a Trump family member under false pretense to gain access. That's -- bad.

    The Democrat story is Democrats GOING TO THEM to get dirt on Trump - and that's not ok, but - meh.

    Apparently it is MUCH worse to be willing to hear about dirt on your opponent - but not get any - than to actually seek to get it from a foreign source - deliberately.
    “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.".Daniel Webster

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    This is what I don't get - the Trump story is a case of a Russian coming to a Trump family member under false pretense to gain access. That's -- bad.

    The Democrat story is Democrats GOING TO THEM to get dirt on Trump - and that's not ok, but - meh.

    Apparently it is MUCH worse to be willing to hear about dirt on your opponent - but not get any - than to actually seek to get it from a foreign source - deliberately.
    CNN is actually saying Russia is our enemy and Ukraine is not and that makes all of the difference.
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    Nothing burger. Moving on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin99 View Post
    CNN is actually saying Russia is our enemy and Ukraine is not and that makes all of the difference.
    This is what's amazing to me... almost throughout the entire Obama presidency they were 'colluding' with the Russians, yucking it up with Vlad, telling Dmitri he will have more flexibility with missile defense, resetting relations, turning a blind eye to the Crimean annexation... Now, suddenly they're our enemy, now that Trump and his crew are 'colluding'.

    MR... colluding is colluding, is it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin99 View Post
    CNN doesn't agree with him, Russia's worse so the Ukrainians are a nothing story.
    then turn the channel, there are some out there that will tell it how you want to hear it.

    Quote Originally Posted by PsyOps View Post
    This is what's amazing to me... almost throughout the entire Obama presidency they were 'colluding' with the Russians, yucking it up with Vlad, telling Dmitri he will have more flexibility with missile defense, resetting relations, turning a blind eye to the Crimean annexation... Now, suddenly they're our enemy, now that Trump and his crew are 'colluding'.

    MR... colluding is colluding, is it not?
    A sitting official would be making policy unless there is a quid pro quo. What did obama get or give in that collusion?

    As for the OP, yes collusion is collusion. It should be investigated and if there is illegal activity it should be prosecuted. Do you disagree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightrider View Post
    As for the OP, yes collusion is collusion. It should be investigated and if there is illegal activity it should be prosecuted. Do you disagree?

    I don't disagree .... but the Clinton's are SPECIAL
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightrider View Post
    What did obama get or give in that collusion?


    Of course, your reply to this will be predictable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin99 View Post
    CNN is actually saying Russia is our enemy and Ukraine is not and that makes all of the difference.
    Remind me of where the P*ss gate story came from.
    “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.".Daniel Webster

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