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    And they also have a homeless problem.
    He's probably their next Senator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky_bee View Post
    Wait, what do you mean by no recycling in VT? It's one of the like, 12 states listed on stuff like your aluminum coke cans for collecting 5 cents per can or whatever. I'm not being smart, I'm genuinely curious because CT is one of those states too, it was mandatory actually.
    I'm looking right now at the Coke Zero can I bought in Burlington and there is a small symbol that says "Please recycle", which is what they say in every state. Nothing about getting 5-cents. Neither our hotel nor any of the places we've been has recycling bins - I looked. At the waterfront and parks they have garbage bins but nothing for recycling - it all goes in the same trash.

    The places we've been, we're used to having two trash bins: one for trash trash and one for recycling, and sometimes separate recycling bins for bottles, cans, and plastic. Not in VT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishbone View Post
    He's probably their next Senator.
    Their two old white men Senators aren't going anywhere. They are immortal, like vampires.
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    VT *is* weird. Ben & Jerry's (and Bernie Sanders) are true representatives - nice, affable, rural, congenial, likeable, wholesome....but once you get 'em going you realize they're bat#### crazy and don't live in reality. That's Vermont.

    Or let me rephrase that: they don't practice what they preach. I can't get over that they don't recycle. And they also have a homeless problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    I'm looking right now at the Coke Zero can I bought in Burlington and there is a small symbol that says "Please recycle", which is what they say in every state. Nothing about getting 5-cents. Neither our hotel nor any of the places we've been has recycling bins - I looked. At the waterfront and parks they have garbage bins but nothing for recycling - it all goes in the same trash.

    The places we've been, we're used to having two trash bins: one for trash trash and one for recycling, and sometimes separate recycling bins for bottles, cans, and plastic. Not in VT.
    Okay, I do see the 5-cent recycle etched very faintly on the top of the can. You have to really look for it, so apparently they don't really want you collecting. And yesterday we were in Vergennes and I saw a combo trash/recycling can on the street. But that's the only one I've seen. So if I want to recycle my cans and get my nickel, I have to go somewhere; if I want to recycle my cans and not worry about the nickel (which is what I really do), I have to go to Vergennes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ View Post
    I'm still betting that you won't make it the entire month.
    They have a surprising number of vacationers at our hotel. I'm like, are there really that many people who want to see the teddy bear factory?? There was a car show last weekend that a lot of people came for. So that's the type of visitor VT attracts: someone who would drive 8 hours to look at cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    I'm looking right now at the Coke Zero can I bought in Burlington and there is a small symbol that says "Please recycle", which is what they say in every state. Nothing about getting 5-cents. Neither our hotel nor any of the places we've been has recycling bins - I looked. At the waterfront and parks they have garbage bins but nothing for recycling - it all goes in the same trash.

    The places we've been, we're used to having two trash bins: one for trash trash and one for recycling, and sometimes separate recycling bins for bottles, cans, and plastic. Not in VT.

    Ohhh...well, that's how all those states are though: In CT you can take your bags of recyclables to a designated station, or in my town, the local grocery store has a big garage next to the entrance where you can dump them all in and get your money. Your actual garbage collector ain't gonna pay you for that. And almost all private residences with trash collection have recycling and trash collection bundled together (as in they give you a recycling bin for you to sort and a garbage truck comes round - your trash goes in one side, recycling on the other - and you don't have to pay extra, like here in MD - it's included bc they want you to do it)

    However, I'm surprised you aren't seeing more 'public' recycling bins. I swear they're all over CT. I never thought about how much I was used to recycling until I came to MD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    Okay, I do see the 5-cent recycle etched very faintly on the top of the can. You have to really look for it, so apparently they don't really want you collecting. And yesterday we were in Vergennes and I saw a combo trash/recycling can on the street. But that's the only one I've seen. So if I want to recycle my cans and get my nickel, I have to go somewhere; if I want to recycle my cans and not worry about the nickel (which is what I really do), I have to go to Vergennes.
    Don't knock it. When I lived up there and was particularly broke and needed fuel for the car. I would go collect cans and get gas money. There are only so many ways an 18 year old can make extra money. Collecting cans was one of them. My dad had a machine shop and I would just go and cash in all the cans from the shop.

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    What I really love is being able to spend a month in a location so Monello and I can really get to know it. Burlington has a lot to recommend it; it's highly liveable. There is a real community feel to this small city, with festivals and a sense of the local when it comes to entertainment and food.

    Today we spent the day at the super cool farmers market in downtown Burlington. Local businesses come out hard for this and there was fresh produce and local meat; plus high end craft items; food vendors of every kind; local beer, wine, and liquor; locally made pottery; and every other thing you can think of. I ate a breakfast taco and a skewer with pork, bacon, and sausage from "heritage pigs" (ooh, fancy...). And we had maple soft serve cones, that they call "creamies" here.

    The other day we went back to Stowe, which is adorable and walkable, with an interesting and lively downtown area. They were having an art festival, with street food and crafts. They make it attractive for people to come spend the day (and their disposable income) wandering, getting an ice cream, and listening to local musicians.

    So far, in all the public venues and festivals we've enjoyed, we have not seen one incident of unruly behavior to spoil it and make people avoid these things in the future. Today downtown there was a homeless encampment on the side of City Hall that was being somewhat of a nuisance, but they weren't right there in front of everyone and easy to avoid. It still confuses me that a state known for being super liberal has homeless people living on the street and panhandling for money.

    But that aside, it's very clean and inviting here. Walking in the evening, you don't have that sense of heightened awareness that you develop in Baltimore (or parts of St. Mary's). There aren't gangs of unruly young people being jerks; there is no sense of menace. It's refreshing and relaxing. There are adorable towns to explore, each with a New England feel, but their own personality.

    We're really enjoying Vermont and will be sorry to leave next week.
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