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    Seriously....

    Do people still fall for this stuff?

    SMECO just called on my business phone to tell me there is a problem with my last payment and they are going to cut off service if I don't pay now. I told him he was full of crap, he hangs up. Calls right back on the same line, give me the same spiel, only this time I say the manager isn't available, does he have a call back number? Of course but call back right away before they cut the service. OH MY! The number is 1 800 562 8764 give him a call, tell him spinner sent you! I should have given him the fake IRS phone number.

    I reported it to the real SMECO, not that there is much they can do.

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    sadly the answer to your first question is yes, people do fall for it. It's not a matter of intelligence, more so than confidence. Some people are just easy to frighten and will comply out of fear the stated action will be taken. Some of us a more than cynical, we are genuine smart asses and we will try to play with the trained monkey making the call.

    SMECO can't do anything. I'll put my legalguy hat on and say that calling isn't a crime, should they get you to send money, then they could be prosecuted for fraud.
    But technology is on the side of the criminal. They can run their calls through an annonamizer and the number on your caller ID is worthless.
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    I don't have caller ID on that phone, that is the number he gave me. Spammers must have a way of keying into the caller ID, the first time he called and I said he was NOT with SMECO he told me to check my caller ID. Which is not on that phone. Must be using the annonamizer thing. Just makes me mad when people try to rip me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner View Post
    I don't have caller ID on that phone, that is the number he gave me. Spammers must have a way of keying into the caller ID, the first time he called and I said he was NOT with SMECO he told me to check my caller ID. Which is not on that phone. Must be using the annonamizer thing. Just makes me mad when people try to rip me off.
    They can make the CID say whatever they want it to say. It is an easily spoofed system and the telcos are doing nothing to block fraudulent CIDs.

    By FTC regs they are required to connect any call that gets handed to them from another telco, even if they know it has a spoofed CID. Where they fail is imnho when they just transmit the fraudulent CID instead of filtering or replacing it with 'CID unknown'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by officeguy View Post
    They can make the CID say whatever they want it to say. It is an easily spoofed system and the telcos are doing nothing to block fraudulent CIDs.

    By FTC regs they are required to connect any call that gets handed to them from another telco, even if they know it has a spoofed CID. Where they fail is imnho when they just transmit the fraudulent CID instead of filtering or replacing it with 'CID unknown'.
    There are some that do. My parent's phone in VA will display "UNKNOWN" or "NOT AVAILABLE" on anything that is not a real CID. Gives me a little confidence they are much less likely to answer a spam call.
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    I don't have a land line and don't answer my cell from area's I don't know people. If they leave a legit message, I do call back, but not usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseRed View Post
    I don't have a land line and don't answer my cell from area's I don't know people. If they leave a legit message, I do call back, but not usually.
    do you know how many times this week alone I've picked up a call from a 240-298-xxxx number? Exactly why they do it, you think it's someone who knows you but just isn't in your contacts.
    I get work related calls that way.
    Not only does it entice you to pick up, it also makes a joke out of the do not call registry.
    Even if you don't pick up, it's annoying to have to just check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseRed View Post
    I don't have a land line and don't answer my cell from area's I don't know people. If they leave a legit message, I do call back, but not usually.
    Glad to hear that some telcos are doing this. Now there are some legit reasons why a legit company would transmit an altered CID, usually to direct callbacks to a central office, but there should be a way to handle those exemptions. Other than that, it should say 'No valid number' on any CID that doesnt match the originating number.

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    I'm not sure if it was a SMECO customer but a business fell for this. I believe right around a thousand or so. The guy was on TV being interviewed, he didn't seem to be a dumb person. Most likely they called while he wasn't present and one of his employees took control of the situation because they were being told we would shut your power off immediately if you didn't make payment.

    It's somewhat understandable that some people may fall for this, I know my parents would probably fall for it.

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    i received a call from my own phone number. Seriously, I could hear my head explode, and I showed my friend, and he said of course, answer it. we knew it was spam, but really, that was WEIRD to see.

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