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    well then feel free to pony up your billions 1st

    It's getting weird now: Why do so many tech billionaires want governments worldwide to give away money for free?

    Tech magnates Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg have already called for "universal basic income," a government program that would give all citizens a set amount of taxpayer money, regardless of whether they have jobs. The handouts would come with no strings attached, just free money.

    Now, Stewart Butterfield, the CEO and co-founder of the workplace chat program Slack and also co-founded Flickr, is joining the call.

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    On July 4, Zuckerberg took to Facebook to recount a recent trip to Alaska — and how a state program for residents works. The post praised Alaska's Permanent Dividend Fund, a $52-billion pile of cash from oil revenues that the state government doles out to citizens each year, usually $1,000 to $2,000 at a time.

    "This is a novel approach to basic income in a few ways," Zuckerberg wrote. "First, it's funded by natural resources rather than raising taxes. Second, it comes from conservative principles of smaller government, rather than progressive principles of a larger safety net. This shows basic income is a bipartisan idea."

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    the only problem Zuck is Venezuela look at what happens when OIL Revenue DRYS UP
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    If anything is going to bring Larry out of retirement, it's gonna be this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    It's getting weird now: Why do so many tech billionaires want governments worldwide to give away money for free?

    Tech magnates Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg have already called for "universal basic income," a government program that would give all citizens a set amount of taxpayer money, regardless of whether they have jobs. The handouts would come with no strings attached, just free money.

    Now, Stewart Butterfield, the CEO and co-founder of the workplace chat program Slack and also co-founded Flickr, is joining the call.

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    On July 4, Zuckerberg took to Facebook to recount a recent trip to Alaska — and how a state program for residents works. The post praised Alaska's Permanent Dividend Fund, a $52-billion pile of cash from oil revenues that the state government doles out to citizens each year, usually $1,000 to $2,000 at a time.

    "This is a novel approach to basic income in a few ways," Zuckerberg wrote. "First, it's funded by natural resources rather than raising taxes. Second, it comes from conservative principles of smaller government, rather than progressive principles of a larger safety net. This shows basic income is a bipartisan idea."

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/19563/...dy-joseph-curl




    the only problem Zuck is Venezuela look at what happens when OIL Revenue DRYS UP
    Look at it this way.
    If the Government did this those poor people would have money
    If those poor people had money they would spend it.
    If they spent it who would be the recipient of it.



    You got that sh1t right. Zuckerburg and the other rich sonsofbitches who want the government to pass it out for free.
    The rich get richer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    "This is a novel approach to basic income in a few ways," Zuckerberg wrote. "First, it's funded by natural resources rather than raising taxes. Second, it comes from conservative principles of smaller government, rather than progressive principles of a larger safety net. This shows basic income is a bipartisan idea."
    Mmmm...not quite.

    The Alaska Permanent Fund Dividend is just that - a dividend on oil production and reserves. The Left wants to shut down oil production in the US.

    It's also a state program. The Left wants to eliminate the state and make everything federal.

    There are also a number of restrictions as to who can receive it - if you have been convicted of a felony, for example, you get no dough. The Left would certainly scotch that idea.

    The amount also fluctuates each year, and even at its highest is certainly not enough to live on.

    This Alaska deal has absolutely nothing - no thing - to do with "basic income". Don't quit your day job, Zuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    If they spent it who would be the recipient of it.
    Drug dealers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    Drug dealers?
    Add Liquor stores and Lotteries to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    Mmmm...not quite.

    This Alaska deal has absolutely nothing - no thing - to do with "basic income". Don't quit your day job, Zuck.

    all salient points, as I said, just look at Venezuela for what happens when the price drops or the OIL runs out ...
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    And if a statue can oppress you, then I submit that you have greater issues. - A West.

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    A good portion of the permanent fund money goes straight to the liquor stores.
    Given the widespread poverty in AK, I don't think the dividend is a shining example as an anti-poverty measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    Look at it this way.
    If the Government did this those poor people would have money
    If those poor people had money they would spend it.
    If they spent it who would be the recipient of it.



    You got that sh1t right. Zuckerburg and the other rich sonsofbitches who want the government to pass it out for free.
    The rich get richer.
    My guess would be liquor stores, rim stores, any place that sells cigarettes....
    If what I say offends you then you really don't want to hear what I keep to myself.

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