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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishbone View Post
    He's background noise.

    I don't even know of any Catholics that give a #### about his opinions anymore.
    And a shame too. At first he looked to be a humble, transformative Pontiff, like John Paul II was.
    “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.".Daniel Webster

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    If they sniff about our "culture"....
    They don't KNOW our culture. You're getting a LOT of it traveling around the country - and probably seeing more of it than you ever thought existed.
    And you're learning even more that we DO have a unique culture that goes beyond pop culture.

    They're gleaning everything from tourists and Hollywood, because it's highly unlikely many of them have ever set foot here.
    Years ago there was this poll conducted all around the world where people were surveyed about what they thought of Americans -
    And the OVERWHELMING majority not only had never been here but an overwhelming percentage had never even MET an American.

    WE at least - *came* from there (among other places). Italians or Greeks or Irish or Polish or Russians or Germans - they may not know much about the United States -
    But immigrants HERE from those nations know ALL about *them*.

    I've had these kinds of discussions with Europeans for ages, who claim they know all about the United States but that we know so little "about the rest of the world".
    I laugh at them - you don't know "the rest of the world" either - your "rest of the world" consists almost entirely of Europeans.
    Your knowledge of the U.S. is limited to the movies, pop culture and the evening news. Your knowledge of Latin American is largely limited to sports news.
    Your knowledge of the Middle East and Africa is as poor as Americans - and they're next door to you.

    You've been sneering at the colonials for 500 years and now that we're your superiors, it really pisses you off.

    I get why people want to see the castles, and the cathedrals and cities in Europe - but they've had two to three thousand years and they're still full of crap.
    “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.".Daniel Webster

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    And a shame too. At first he looked to be a humble, transformative Pontiff, like John Paul II was.
    Humble yes. Transformative maybe. I'm just not sure everyone is ready to buy into Latin American liberation theology.
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    Between the Pope and Cardinal Wuerl a lot of Catholics in Southern Maryland are starting to question their faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    *shrug* - Personal experience I guess. Largest ones I know are Mormon - or rural. As in Iowa farm boy with 20 siblings.
    I don't think "The Waltons" were Catholic, but I knew rural families like that.

    I think there's more culture associated with Catholic and family size, because France is largely Catholic but I don't know of large French families, but I do know of Italian families being large - BUT - my Roman history I took in college is that THAT has been that way for thousands of years.

    I know people want to believe it's because of Catholicism and birth control, but honestly modern birth control is a recent thing historically, and large families go back centuries.
    Prior to modern times, Asian and Indian families were large, and they're not known for being Catholic.
    My point was that the Catholic religion encourages large families which most certainly isn't green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwillia View Post
    My point was that the Catholic religion encourages large families which most certainly isn't green.
    Oh I got that too. (Disagree over the "green" bit. Amish have large families - they're very green. Ditto farmers).

    I spent half my childhood in an area populated almost entirely by Polish, Italian and Irish.
    Catholic. You'd have been hard-pressed to find ANY Protestant church of any kind in the area.
    I don't think I saw too many families greater than 4 kids. Mostly less.

    I don't see a *religious* connection. Only a cultural one.
    “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.".Daniel Webster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    Between the Pope and Cardinal Wuerl a lot of Catholics in Southern Maryland are starting to question their faith
    That's the problem with putting anyone between yourself and Jesus - a failure/human can influence your faith.
    There are only two possibilities; one is that we are alone in the universe, the other is that we are not.
    Both are terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    Between the Pope and Cardinal Wuerl a lot of Catholics in Southern Maryland are starting to question their faith
    That's funny, most of the Catholics I know like the pope. You have to remember that most Catholics take what they want and leave the rest anyway. They do the same thing with what the pope says
    "once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right"-TGD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightrider View Post
    That's funny, most of the Catholics I know like the pope. You have to remember that most Catholics take what they want and leave the rest anyway. They do the same thing with what the pope says
    So: You know some Catholics and that makes you an expert

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightrider View Post
    That's funny, most of the Catholics I know like the pope. You have to remember that most Catholics take what they want and leave the rest anyway. They do the same thing with what the pope says
    Sounds like atheists who think they set their own morals, but their morals are based on generic judeo-Christian values because that is the society in which they were raised - and then they change their "morals" on whims.

    Yeah, I see what you're talking about.
    There are only two possibilities; one is that we are alone in the universe, the other is that we are not.
    Both are terrifying.

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