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    H+ Blamiing EVERYONE for Her LOSS

    Hillary Clinton believes that were it not for James Comey, Russia, Wikileaks, Facebook, fake news, voter ID laws, or America's "endemic" sexism and misogyny, she would currently be president of the United States.

    In just under two minutes, Clinton rattled off eight separate excuses for losing the 2016 election.

    Clinton claims that, "If the election were on October 27, I would be your president," singling out James Comey in particular for re-opening an investigation into her mishandling of classified material. (Others notably argue that Comey kept Clinton in the campaign by preemptively exonerating Clinton before the FBI had concluded its own investigation.)

    "I went from 26 points ahead to 13 points ahead, and I needed about 18 points in order to be sure to win Pennsylvania," Clinton said of the impact of Comey's notorious letter explaining he was re-opening the investigation. "I watched how analysts who I have a great deal of respect for, like Nate Silver, burrowed into all the data and said that 'but for that Comey letter, she would have won.'"

    "So it was very personal to me," she said in an interview with CBS's Jane Pauley. "I think my general election prospects were badly damaged because of that, so that even though I was starting to come back, it was not enough time to overcome it."

    https://news.grabien.com/story-two-m...aks-facebook-v
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    You know, from hearing their self-description, you'd think a Hillary win was a slam-dunk. They had all the money, finances and the polls said she'd win in a HUGE landslide.

    And *SOMEHOW* - the entire voting public - or at least, the ones in about 7 or 8 swing states - all turned on her all at once.

    Her whole campaign was hinging on "I'm a woman - it's my turn - and I'm not Donald Trump".
    Can ANYONE name a SINGLE issue that she promoted? Free college? Nope, that was Bernie. What did she run on?

    I'm sorry, but if you're up by a couple touchdowns in the last two minutes - and you LOSE - you suck.
    The fact is, the polls were wrong. Nate Silver - was wrong. I've seen election cycle after another, and it is amazing how often some polls, especially in given states, are just way off.
    They ALWAYS miscalculate the independent vote and the undecideds. Did they consider that THIS time around, after repeatedly vilifying Trump supporters - that maybe people just didn't want to publicly mention their vote, for being screamed at and bullied? After so many saying if you're a Trump voter, you're a racist and so forth - that maybe they just didn't all want to be honest about it? Because you could NOT admit it without being excoriated and insulted.

    Here's the bottom line - the Progressives believed they were running against a turd.
    And the TURD won. THE - TURD - WON.

    **WHAT** should that say about the Progressive candidate?

    A mature and rational person should self-examine and say - it's my fault. Not Hillary. Years ago it was the "vast right-wing conspiracy".
    The blame game has never ended.

    What do YOU think of people in your life who ONLY find others to blame when they fail?
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    Her prospects were likely more damaged by her illegal acts then anything Comey wrote about the investigation of those acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clem72 View Post
    Her prospects were likely more damaged by her illegal acts then anything Comey wrote about the investigation of those acts.
    Did Comey call Hillary "an unindicted co-conspirator"? What exactly was SO DAMAGING about what Comey did that derailed two years of campaigning?

    He hinted there might be more to it - and that he was investigating it.

    Now - if you were PLANNING to vote for Hillary and had said you were voting for her for the previous year - and Comey comes out and says "know what? maybe there's something there" - what in the world is going to make you jump ship to Trump, or stay home, or vote third party (numbers don't suggest any of that happened, but)?

    The gist of it is - not SURE - MAYBE - we'll check it out. There was no damning evidence.
    But she is suggesting the mere suspicion of wrongdoing caused enough to jump ship.

    Wow. That's some party loyalty there. Trump says all kinds of crude locker room talk and his voters stay. Someone HINTS Hillary might be a crook and the rats leave the ship.

    They leave the ship because deep inside they suspect it's true. It's like voting for someone you *suspect* is organized crime. ONE HINT and you're gone.

    Sorry, but blaming Comey is actually saying worse things about people who support her.
    It means they were never FOR her.
    Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong". Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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    The funniest part is she also blames the Electoral College like it's something new

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post

    Clinton claims that, "If the election were on October 27, I would be your president,"

    https://news.grabien.com/story-two-m...aks-facebook-v
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    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    The funniest part is she also blames the Electoral College like it's something new
    And this election DOES in fact show a fact why I like to KEEP the Electoral College.

    In most elections you will find a lot of stability in some states' votes. Some of reliably Democrat, some reliably Republican.
    The last three showed that divide clearly. There weren't a lot of "squeaker" states in 2004, 2008 and 2012.
    There also weren't a lot of states where someone won with less than 50% of the vote.
    Hillary won a lot of "extra" votes in California. ~ 4.5 million votes more than needed to win. Highest percentage than any other state.
    And as far as I can tell, with a higher percentage of Californians than any Democrat in history, including Obama and even when Johnson slaughtered Goldwater.
    THAT is where she gets the "popular vote" win.

    The way things work, if every voter in California had voted for her, it would still come out the same.
    We all know this - we know if we vote Republican in a state that always goes Democrat, our vote pretty much counts for nothing.
    But she likes to say "I got the popular vote" because a few MILLION more in just California voted for her.

    The Electoral College keeps it so one whole state can't dominate the elections. When it was formed, it was feared that VIRGINIA would dominate every election,
    by virtue of the fact that just as California has a huge population advantage, so did Virginia at the time. They were concerned that only Virginians would be elected.
    (As it so happens - six of the first 10 were from Virginia anyway). They also suspected that there were be many candidates hailing from their own native state.
    An Electoral College ensured that anyone who won would have to have support elsewhere than the place they came from.

    Nowadays, it prevents something else. It won't happen anytime soon but - if a HUGE portion of all the major population states always voted one way - the
    rest of the country wouldn't matter at all. There WAS a time when Texas always went Democrat. They voted VERY heavily for Roosevelt. Only once less than 80%.
    Imagine if a popular vote elected a President, and Texas, California, New York, Florida and Illinois could all reliably vote very heavily Democrat - the rest of the nation wouldn't matter.

    ANYWAY - her overwhelming win in California was the only thing giving her the "popular" vote, and frankly, I think even beating Obama and Johnson strikes me as - weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    And this election DOES in fact show a fact why I like to KEEP the Electoral College.

    In most elections you will find a lot of stability in some states' votes. Some of reliably Democrat, some reliably Republican.
    The last three showed that divide clearly. There weren't a lot of "squeaker" states in 2004, 2008 and 2012.
    There also weren't a lot of states where someone won with less than 50% of the vote.
    Hillary won a lot of "extra" votes in California. ~ 4.5 million votes more than needed to win. Highest percentage than any other state.
    And as far as I can tell, with a higher percentage of Californians than any Democrat in history, including Obama and even when Johnson slaughtered Goldwater.
    THAT is where she gets the "popular vote" win.

    The way things work, if every voter in California had voted for her, it would still come out the same.
    We all know this - we know if we vote Republican in a state that always goes Democrat, our vote pretty much counts for nothing.
    But she likes to say "I got the popular vote" because a few MILLION more in just California voted for her.

    The Electoral College keeps it so one whole state can't dominate the elections. When it was formed, it was feared that VIRGINIA would dominate every election,
    by virtue of the fact that just as California has a huge population advantage, so did Virginia at the time. They were concerned that only Virginians would be elected.
    (As it so happens - six of the first 10 were from Virginia anyway). They also suspected that there were be many candidates hailing from their own native state.
    An Electoral College ensured that anyone who won would have to have support elsewhere than the place they came from.

    Nowadays, it prevents something else. It won't happen anytime soon but - if a HUGE portion of all the major population states always voted one way - the
    rest of the country wouldn't matter at all. There WAS a time when Texas always went Democrat. They voted VERY heavily for Roosevelt. Only once less than 80%.
    Imagine if a popular vote elected a President, and Texas, California, New York, Florida and Illinois could all reliably vote very heavily Democrat - the rest of the nation wouldn't matter.

    ANYWAY - her overwhelming win in California was the only thing giving her the "popular" vote, and frankly, I think even beating Obama and Johnson strikes me as - weird.
    She never should have been picked by the Democrats to be their candidate.
    Bernie voters got screwed and they knew it. Pissed a lot of them off.
    She is a crook, and despite the fact that most politicians are crooks. she stood head and shoulders above them.
    She lied---and lied---and lied. No one likes to be lied to.
    She took for granted that anyone who voted for her was an idiot.
    She didn't work for the job, she acted like it was hers by default.

    Last but not least she is a reprehensible human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    She never should have been picked by the Democrats to be their candidate.
    Bernie voters got screwed and they knew it. Pissed a lot of them off.
    She is a crook, and despite the fact that most politicians are crooks. she stood head and shoulders above them.
    She lied---and lied---and lied. No one likes to be lied to.
    She took for granted that anyone who voted for her was an idiot.
    She didn't work for the job, she acted like it was hers by default.

    Last but not least she is a reprehensible human being.
    You summed it up, nicely.
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    AND she blames Bernie Sanders, after she and the DNC screwed him out of the nomination. That takes some brass, man.
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