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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    I've always heard them call themselves Puerto Ricans, never Americans. They also have a strong national identity that is not American.

    You might want to look up what it means to be an "unincorporated territory".
    All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1402
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    I've always heard them call themselves Puerto Ricans, never Americans. They also have a strong national identity that is not American.

    You might want to look up what it means to be an "unincorporated territory".
    It does not matter how they see themselves. The only thing that matters is how Chris wants to define them. See how that works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    It does not matter how they see themselves. The only thing that matters is how Chris wants to define them. See how that works?
    Legally speaking, they are American citizens. Like I said. You should focus more on reading and less on "gotchas".

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Never. It's a US territory but its citizens are considered Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Legally speaking, they are American citizens. Like I said. You should focus more on reading and less on "gotchas".
    I read very carefully your attempted rebuttal of Vrai's post. ;-)
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    Independence for Puerto Rico now!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Legally speaking, they are American citizens. Like I said. You should focus more on reading and less on "gotchas".
    My understanding is that unincorporated territories enjoy some, but not all, rights under our Constitution. Feel free to correct me if I have it wrong.

    But that is neither here nor there. Puerto Ricans do differentiate themselves from those living in the US. It's not merely a race thing, it is a cultural thing and they do have a very strong national identity in PR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    I've always heard them call themselves Puerto Ricans, never Americans. They also have a strong national identity that is not American.

    You might want to look up what it means to be an "unincorporated territory".
    Oh the horror of having a strong national identity. Tell that to the millions of Puerto ricans, Koreans, chinese, Irish, living in america. Who knew we are supposed to give up our identity to be "american"

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by stgislander View Post
    Independence for Puerto Rico now!!!!
    Every referendum they have had, they reject it in favor of statehood. By a LOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stgislander View Post
    Independence for Puerto Rico now!!!!
    Forced independence? Like a reverse civil war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    Every referendum they have had, they reject it in favor of statehood. By a LOT.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clem72 View Post
    Forced independence? Like a reverse civil war?
    Does it say somewhere that we just grant them their independence?
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