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    Cuba

    The book I'm currently reading (The Cuban Affair by Nelson DeMille) takes place in...wait for it...Cuba. DeMille's description makes Havana sound highly unappealing, and yet throngs of celebretards say it's a "worker's paradise" - whatever that means - and speak glowingly of their visit. So I decided to get some other opinions from travel bloggers, etc.

    The general consensus is that Cuba, which of course is Socialist, is a #### hole...UNLESS you're the type of person who enjoys poverty porn tours. And yes, those people exist. I saw a #### ton of them last night. Basically gawking at poor people who are under extreme government control makes them feel great about their own situation. "I came away with such a sense of gratitude..." "It was soooo authentic!" "See it before it becomes commercialized..." Yes, if only we could go back in time to slavery days and visit an authentic plantation and watch an authentic auction and cat-hauling. You know, before they become modern and all. These are the type of tourists who treat other countries like a human zoo - "Look! A Cuban is his natural habitat....behind bars!"

    Cuba does not have nice things for themselves, therefore they cannot provide that to tourists. There's a reason why Cubans jump on rafts and risk their lives trying to escape to the US. Most of us know this, of course, but there is still a large segment of our population that thinks Socialism is super cool because...free stuff!! They don't seem to understand that that "stuff" in fact has a very high price tag.

    I don't really understand Americans who vacation in third-world countries. Why? Do they just enjoy filth, crime, and degradation? Is reading about conditions in these countries not good enough, and they need to go gawk for themselves?
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    I don't really understand Americans who vacation in third-world countries. Why? Do they just enjoy filth, crime, and degradation? Is reading about conditions in these countries not good enough, and they need to go gawk for themselves?
    Having worked on ships at many of the Caribbean islands over the years, I'd have to say the majority of them are sh!thole third-world countries. But I see all that because I'm working there and not staying at the lovely and very sequestered resorts that dot all those islands. I doubt most tourists staying in Guadeloupe, for example, ever see the dingy cardboard shacks the locals live in because they are kept well away from the resorts and any "tourist" trinket gathering spots. Even Cuba has some very nice tourist resorts that Non-American tourists (Europeans mostly) have been going to for years and years.
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    Oh, and another thing that annoys me:

    Americans, please do not go to impoverished third world countries and haggle with the locals to save a couple of bucks. If the lady says the ankle bracelet is $5, pay the five and shut up. Haggling with her might save you a whole whopping dollar, which is nothing to you but is a lot of money to her. Imagine if you were selling something you made to try and scrape together money to feed your family, and Bill Gates came along and demanded a discount. That's how you look to Bahamians, Jamaicans, Mexicans, and Cubans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    I don't really understand Americans who vacation in third-world countries. Why? Do they just enjoy filth, crime, and degradation? Is reading about conditions in these countries not good enough, and they need to go gawk for themselves?
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    Tell me where I can get this view and I'll stop going to 3rd world countries. Yea 99% of the country is a ####hole but the tourist areas are heavenly. Usually travel to the Caribbean once a year.

    Edit: You think they're bad now, what do you think they would look like if people stopped going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR47930 View Post
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    Tell me where I can get this view and I'll stop going to 3rd world countries.
    All along the Gulf coast. They don't have the Sandals logo because they don't need to be gated guarded resorts to be beautiful and safe, but the view of the Gulf and the white sand beaches are the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    All along the Gulf coast. They don't have the Sandals logo because they don't need to be gated guarded resorts to be beautiful and safe, but the view of the Gulf and the white sand beaches are the same.
    What about the pitons, and the guy walking around bringing me drinks non-stop and the endless amount of food? My wife and I can go here for the week, all-inclusive (including airfare) for the same price as 4-5 nights in some ghetto OCMD hotel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR47930 View Post
    What about the pitons, and the guy walking around bringing me drinks non-stop and the endless amount of food? My wife and I can go here for the week, all-inclusive (including airfare) for the same price as 4-5 nights in some ghetto OCMD hotel.
    So go.

    I presume someone vacations in a foreign country to actually, um, see that country. If all you're doing is staying at your resort, eating buffet, and drinking on the beach, your cultural exposure is low. That's not what my thread was about.
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    We went to Jamaica last year. The ride from the airport to our resort was eye opening!!! Shacks, no roads to speak of, trash all over the place. The resort was beautiful, but, going for excursions, it was terrible. I like to think that tourism helps these countries by creating jobs. When we went to Cancun...completely different atmosphere, beautiful countryside and friendly people at the resort. I have no desire to visit Cuba, I still dont understand what the draw is for going to Cuba!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR47930 View Post
    What about the pitons, and the guy walking around bringing me drinks non-stop and the endless amount of food? My wife and I can go here for the week, all-inclusive (including airfare) for the same price as 4-5 nights in some ghetto OCMD hotel.
    We did all inclusive in Cancun...Loved it, we're thinking about going back next year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    Having worked on ships at many of the Caribbean islands over the years, I'd have to say the majority of them are sh!thole third-world countries. But I see all that because I'm working there and not staying at the lovely and very sequestered resorts that dot all those islands. I doubt most tourists staying in Guadeloupe, for example, ever see the dingy cardboard shacks the locals live in because they are kept well away from the resorts and any "tourist" trinket gathering spots. Even Cuba has some very nice tourist resorts that Non-American tourists (Europeans mostly) have been going to for years and years.
    Yep, I did giggle when I read loves post " We went to Jamaica "
    Originally Posted by littlelady View Post
    I just reported you. You are one scary individual.

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