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    Questions about Vegas shooter

    IN Ann Coulter's latest column, she vigorously disputes that anyone can make a substantial living playing video poker.
    I actually know a guy who DID do that for a while - until they started changing the way it is done, made better software and the tax laws changed.
    Then he came back to work where I do.

    But - Ann is right. You really DON'T make a living playing poker. You can enjoy it, and if you're good at it, you can play for a while.
    In the long run, you will always lose money.

    She hints at a few ideas which I thought over --

    What if Paddock was a patsy?

    She asks these questions and poses a strange scenario -

    "Why would Paddock unload 200 rounds into the hallway at a security guard who was checking on someone else's room beforebeginning his massacre?

    How can it possibly take eight days to figure out when the alleged shooter checked into the hotel?

    Why was Paddock wearing gloves if he was about to commit suicide?

    Have any other solitary mass shooters ever had girlfriends?

    If Paddock wasn't making money on video poker -- and he wasn't -- why would he be cycling millions of dollars through a casino, turning every dollar into, at best, 99 cents? "

    Then she poses this:

    "If this were a movie script, a terrorist would go to Paddock's room on the pretense of buying guns, kill Paddock, commit the massacre, put his gunshot residue-covered gloves on Paddock's dead hands and slip out of the room when the coast was clear.

    According to the all-new timeline given by the Las Vegas police -- pending a third revision -- this is at least possible. The hallway was empty, except for a bleeding security guard down by the elevators, for at least two minutes after the shooting stopped. The stairwell was clear for more than half an hour. It also explains the gloves. "

    I'd add another one : Why would he have SO MANY GUNS in a hotel at a less than ideal shooting location?
    Because he sold GUNS for a living. THAT'S why. That is why he had so much money. He made money selling them.
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    where is the hotel surveillance footage
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    It might explain the dead security guard BEFORE the shooting. If you're in your room full of guns, you don't walk into the hallway and turn an otherwise uninvolved security guard into paste --

    But you might if you were ARRIVING to the room - and armed.

    It may well be that:

    He was selling guns -
    He used casinos to launder money -
    The hotel doesn't want this known to the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    He was selling guns -
    He used casinos to launder money -
    The hotel doesn't want this known to the public.
    I'll go for this before I believe that he's some lone nut. But I don't believe Oswald acted alone, either. At least Oswald showed signs to his friends and family, and had a suspicious background. Supposedly this Vegas shooter was a stellar citizen, normal guy...who just snapped. The problem is that "snapping" is typically a spontaneous act, and this massacre in Vegas was clearly planned way in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    I'll go for this before I believe that he's some lone nut. But I don't believe Oswald acted alone, either. At least Oswald showed signs to his friends and family, and had a suspicious background. Supposedly this Vegas shooter was a stellar citizen, normal guy...who just snapped. The problem is that "snapping" is typically a spontaneous act, and this massacre in Vegas was clearly planned way in advance.
    The "planning" part is the hole in the "just an arms dealer" speculation, since his previous trips suggest he was looking for a chance to do something massive.

    Still, I have doubts we will ever hear a credible story. As long as the story is stupid, I'm going to think the real motive is something someone doesn't want known.
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    I can attest to poor security at Mandalay Bay, I was walking through the hotel/conference area trying to get downstairs to the shark reef and happened upon some tables outside of a conference area where all the doors were shut but a full banquet spread was laid out and not a soul was in sight. I quickly made myself a plate of food and took off looking for the shark reef.
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    Reporter Visits Home of Mandalay Bay “Hero” Jesus Campos – Armed Security Guard from Shady Firm Meets Her in Yard


    Yesterday, Loomer reported that Campos’ name has been scrubbed from the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino employee database. “One day after I exclusively reported that Campos was scrubbed from the official MGM employee profile database ‘WorkDay,’ I decided to track him down and attempt to speak to him at his home in Las Vegas,” Loomer explained. “When I arrived, an armed security guard was standing in front of Campos’s house. The guard, who identified himself as Troy Goff, said he works for a company called ‘On Scene’ that has been hired out to provide Campos with armed security protection.”

    According to Loomer and fellow journalist Mike Tokes, On Scene is at best a dubious security company:


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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    The "planning" part is the hole in the "just an arms dealer" speculation, since his previous trips suggest he was looking for a chance to do something massive.

    Still, I have doubts we will ever hear a credible story. As long as the story is stupid, I'm going to think the real motive is something someone doesn't want known.
    Unless his previous trips were pure coincidence.. that he had reservations at hotels near big events. How many other reservations did he have that weren't? Though, planning something like selling guns on a large scale, wouldn't you want to be near something "big" going on?? All the comings and goings, everyone to busy to notice what it is, or how much you are taking to your room.. you get lost in the crowd.

    Maybe the other two were cancelled not because of a change of heart, but because the deal wasn't ready to go yet.

    LOTS of questions.. not many answers.. and I don't buy into many conspiracy theory crap..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeoplesElbow View Post
    I can attest to poor security at Mandalay Bay, I was walking through the hotel/conference area trying to get downstairs to the shark reef and happened upon some tables outside of a conference area where all the doors were shut but a full banquet spread was laid out and not a soul was in sight. I quickly made myself a plate of food and took off looking for the shark reef.
    Reminds me of the chuckle I would get when people unfamiliar with the layout and think they are sneaky pile up a plate from the buffet table outside the poker room (not realizing it was fully intended to be free).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    where is the hotel surveillance footage
    This ^^^ We got clear as day surveillance of Ray Rice knocking his wife out in Vegas how come we have zero surveillance of this guy? I thought the eye in the sky was watching us all? How did he manage to check into the hotel w/ his girlfriends id an under her name? I can tell you I booked a room w/ my son as the second person in the room and he tried to check into the hotel and they wouldn't let him check in w/ out me physically being there. You mean to tell me theres no surveillance at the check in desk???
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