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    The 301 Nice Bridge is definitely happening. We have it our on bid radar for middle of 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    He can announce anything he wants... until there is a machine digging for pilings or something written in stone, it's just more bull####.

    And love the caveat "anticipates"
    It's moving forward smartly. We're involved with the dredging operations in a peripheral way and the schedule has remained constant.


    But that aside..the cost of the new Nice Bridge simply pales in comparison to what another bay crossing will cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    What else would the $756 million be for? All the environmental reports, soil borings, conceptual plans, community outreach, etc. are all done.
    Sorry. This thing has been proposed and stopped so many times over the years that until there is something being built, I'll remain skeptical.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    Sorry. This thing has been proposed and stopped so many times over the years that until there is something being built, I'll remain skeptical.
    I'm confident it will go ahead because a) the traffic issue has become so acute in recent years that it can longer be ignored and b) the extent of the engineering, surveying and planning never came remotely close to as far as where it is now.

    But yeah, it always takes money....and all the money has not been found yet.
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    Who you callin' pussy? gary_webb's Avatar
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    Several years back I met with the lead engineer of the Maryland Bridge Authority during the course of every day business. It had nothing to do with a bay crossing but the subject did come up and he said the state had been studying it for approximately 20 years at that time. The location was to be somewhere around Solomons Island to the vicinity of Cambridge. Of course the NIMBY people in Calvert lost there minds, and as someone has already said "Not in our lifetime".
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    Quote Originally Posted by gary_webb View Post
    Several years back I met with the lead engineer of the Maryland Bridge Authority during the course of every day business. It had nothing to do with a bay crossing but the subject did come up and he said the state had been studying it for approximately 20 years at that time. The location was to be somewhere around Solomons Island to the vicinity of Cambridge. Of course the NIMBY people in Calvert lost there minds, and as someone has already said "Not in our lifetime".
    Probably the same group that lost their minds back when we were involved in supporting some ferry studies that connected similar points.
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    There's absolutely no point in linking Somerset/SoMD (crossing the Bay), or for that matter Virginia/St Marys (crossing the Potomac), if the roads from DC down to SoMD are not also upgraded. It's already a rolling parking lot often enough - we can't handle more traffic as it is.

    More than a few studies over the years have shown that adding roads doesn't help congestion - the congestion always grows to fill the roads. So all these dreams of reducing congestion don't really help in the long run.

    Consider that 235 from the base to Wildewood used to be a rolling parking lot every rush hour. Then they expanded 235 and things were just great... for a while. Now the traffic is pretty much just as bad as it used to be - more cars get thru per hour, but just as long of a rush hour mess as it used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BernieP View Post
    Seriously

    One of the reasons for not putting the TJ bridge on the docket is they way the democrats stacked the prioritization by population.

    That formula was repealed.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by awpitt View Post
    That formula was repealed.
    When, you mean the legislature actually voted to take money away from their own pockets.

    To people calling the people of Calvert and St. Mary's NIBY for not being interested in a terminal / port or a bridge for the Eastern Shore I would disagree in this case.
    For the projects to be viable (be able to raise enough money to pay off bonds and operate, they would need more traffic than lives in the lower parts of St. Mary's and Calvert counties.
    That means vehicles traveling south on Rt 5/235 and Rt. 4. Neither road would be suitable for through traffic, not when you can take US 50 instead of hitting dozens of stop lights.

    You are also trying to build roads and a bridge in an area with lots of small bodies of water, that would drive up the cost significantly.

    Neither project is economically viable and that's why people are not for it.
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    Pipe dream. Wont ever get built. Just another tool for MDOT buerocrats to route money into the pockets of their consultant friends. After 20 million are spent on the EIS they'll decide that adding a third span to the existing bridge is the only viable option. I could have told them the same for $1 mil.

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