Don't Act Shocked And Appalled By Harvey Weinstein If You Celebrated Hefner

[GURPS]

For just one illustration, take a look at how The Daily Beast has reported on the physical and professional demise of Hefner and Weinstein, respectively. They've published many blaring headlines rightfully calling Weinstein a "predator" whose "reign of terror" left countless victims in its wake. As for Hefner, they lauded his "civil rights legacy" and credited him with "bringing sex out of the shadows." The fact that he "brought sex out of the shadows" by objectifying thousands of women, while keeping a harem of teenage girls who performed sexual acts on his elderly, decrepit body because they thought it was the best way to advance their softcore porn careers, is apparently irrelevant.

We seem to have a very confused notion of sexual morality. Mostly because we have no notion of it. We're making it up as we go along. One minute we're calling a creepy 90-year-old man a hero because he coerced a bunch of girls to get naked for him, the next we're crucifying a creepy 65-year-old man because he did something quite similar.

These kinds of glaring inconsistencies are par for the course in our culture. We celebrate the porn industry even as we decry the sex trafficking that fuels it. We mock Mike Pence for respecting boundaries even as we panic over the sexual harassment that Pence's policy is meant to avoid. We encourage guys and girls in college to get together for booze-fueled coed parties even as we wring our hands over the supposed "rape epidemic" these parties cause. None of this makes any sense at all.

Now, I'll be told that one important word separates and distinguishes the acceptable from the unacceptable in the examples listed above: consent. But how so? Even consent is defined haphazardly. Are we supposed to believe that Hefner's concubines had orgies with him because they found his decaying husk irresistible? Are we supposed to believe that the playmates in the magazine had true feelings of joy and personal fulfillment in becoming masturbatory material for millions of lonely men? If so, then I suppose we have to believe that the young Hollywood starlets gave Weinstein naked massages because they were really into it. And if the 19-year-old blonde "consented" to prostituting herself for Hefner, then we must in that case believe that the actresses who slept with Weinstein for film roles did the same.


WALSH: Please Don't Act Shocked And Appalled By Harvey Weinstein If You Celebrated Hugh Hefner

 

[This_person]

One minute we're calling a creepy 90-year-old man a hero because he coerced a bunch of girls to get naked for him, the next we're crucifying a creepy 65-year-old man because he did something quite similar.

Oh, that's not true. I mean, the Bunnies did it because they were willing to, and thought it would help their career, whereas the ones who did it for Havey....uh, well, maybe it is the same thing after all.

 

[SamSpade]

Oh, that's not true. I mean, the Bunnies did it because they were willing to, and thought it would help their career, whereas the ones who did it for Havey....uh, well, maybe it is the same thing after all.

No, I think you got the gist of it. I don't think I've ever heard of a Bunny story where they felt compelled in any way to be there.

Perhaps some women HAVE risen to the top of the entertainment industry fully willing to put out whenever asked to advance and get good roles.
There's no question it happens in business circles - we've seen it - and I've certainly seen where both parties know they're exploiting each other.

Truth be told, I've always assumed that Hollywood ALWAYS functions this way that, for this to be news, Weinstein must have pissed someone off greatly to make a deal of this.
The real scandal - to me - is not Weinstein but the press and their lack of involvement or willingness to bury or ignore the story.
They're completely willing to publish rumor or innuendo in a heartbeat but with rock hard solid evidence - just shrugged.

 

[This_person]

Weinstein must have pissed someone off greatly to make a deal of this.

 

[SamSpade]

.....

I'm thinking maybe his brother?

 

[Hijinx]

Can the Weinstein agency change it's name and survive without Weinstein?

 

[vraiblonde]

The real scandal - to me - is not Weinstein but the press and their lack of involvement or willingness to bury or ignore the story.

Anyone who has been paying even the slightest bit of attention knows that the press is highly selective and pushes or buries according to their agenda. It doesn't surprise me one bit that they'd sit on Harvey Weinstein, but blast Donald Trump to hell and back. Remember how they did with Bill Clinton - not just the Lewinsky story, but all of them? Matt Drudge made his name by breaking that story because none of the rest of them would touch it - Michael Isikoff uncovered the story and Newsweek specifically killed it.

Our news media in this country is a mess and Trump arrived just in time, as far as I'm concerned. Say what you will, but he is personally responsible for exposing these people for what they are: lying agenda-driven ####bags. I'd give him a second term just for that alone.

 

[GURPS]

It doesn't surprise me one bit that they'd sit on Harvey Weinstein, but blast Donald Trump to hell and back. Remember how they did with Bill Clinton - not just the Lewinsky story, but all of them? Matt Drudge made his name by breaking that story because none of the rest of them would touch it - Michael Isikoff uncovered the story and Newsweek specifically killed it.

John 'Breck Girl' Edwards was exposed by the National Enquirer ....
Wiener story was broken by Dailymail.co.uk


sometimes the tabloids are the fearless ones breaking stories

 

[vraiblonde]

sometimes the tabloids are the fearless ones breaking stories

That's because they're not part of the gang and have nothing to lose. NBC/CNN/etc are certainly not going to bust out their besties - they save their investigative journalism for their mortal enemies, the Republicans.

Not to mention Drudge Report is a universal news aggregator, not a right-wing news blog, yet Matt Drudge got labeled and demonized by the Left media because he *dared* to run the story of our former Sexual Harasser in Chief and his intern girlfriend. The brainwashed progs go, "Oh, Drudge " like they go "Oh, Fox " because that is what they're told to say. They don't know #### about Drudge OR Fox, they just parrot what they've been programmed with.

It's scary and disgusting and I'm thankful every day that we were smart enough to elect Donald Trump as our president.

 

[GURPS]

Not to mention Drudge Report is a universal news aggregator, not a right-wing news blog, yet Matt Drudge got labeled and demonized by the Left media because he *dared* to run the story of our former Sexual Harasser in Chief and his intern girlfriend.

I've lost track of the links on Drudge I have clicked that have lead to;


Puff -n- Somth'n
Poltico
NPR
CNN

etc

 

[vraiblonde]

I've lost track of the links on Drudge I have clicked that have lead to;


Puff -n- Somth'n
Poltico
NPR
CNN

etc

And yet the progbots STILL to this day get all freaked out at anything Drudge because that's how they've been programmed. How do you make a prog's head explode? Mention you saw a story on Drudge or Fox. They will ERUPT.