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    But The Trump Dossiar Was On the Up and Up .... Right

    ..... why take the 5th

    What is striking about Fusion's refusal is the form it took. Notifying the House that Simpson and the others will not testify took one paragraph. Yet Fusion sent a 17-page letter to the intelligence committee, going to great lengths to argue that Chairman Devin Nunes is not qualified to issue the subpoena.

    "Despite your recusal from the Committee's Russia investigation after falling under scrutiny by the House Ethics Committee, your unilateral issuance of these subpoenas violates your recusal and further undermines the legitimacy of this investigation," the Fusion GPS lawyers wrote. "Nothing within the subpoenas or their attachments provides any indication that the Committee authorized you, as chair, to sign or issue them."

    Nunes has noted on several occasions that he did not "recuse" himself from the investigation, but instead "stepped back" from playing a leading public role in the probe. In any event, a subpoena signed by the chairman of a committee — in this case, Nunes — is valid, and a witness's lawyer cannot simply declare it invalid. (Simpson did submit to an interview with Senate investigators but refused to answer their main question, which was who funded the dossier project.)

    In any event, Monday's letter went on to lecture Nunes about the committee investigation in a style that could have been written by the committee's ranking Democrat and chief Nunes antagonist, Rep. Adam Schiff. Issuing the subpoena, the Fusion GPS lawyers wrote, "is shameful and reflects a pattern of ultra vires behavior," — that is, behavior beyond Nunes's legal authority, the lawyers wrote.

    Byron York: Fusion GPS to House: We'll take Fifth rather than testify on Trump dossier
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

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    Nothing to see here, folks - move on.
    "In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress." John Adams

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    Trump Dossier=Nothing more than a political dirty trick.

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    Nunes’ investigating digs up trove of Democrat connections to Russia dossier


    On two fronts, Rep. Devin Nunes has shifted the Russia debate in Washington further away from President Trump and closer to Democrats.

    He exposed the practice of “unmasking” by Obama aides and flushed out the source of payments for the scandalous anti-Trump dossier that drove the Russia collusion narrative.

    The California Republican’s first tactic: He traveled to the Executive Office Building and viewed evidence that the Obama administration had “unmasked” the concealed names of Trump associates in highly classified intelligence reports during the election campaign.

    The chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence talked publicly about his discovery to much derision from Democrats and Washington’s press corps. The unmasking suggested that the Obama White House was spying on a political foe through its legal right to unmask the identities of people unintentionally swept up in surveillance operations.

    An advocacy group filed a complaint about his disclosure with the Office of Congressional Ethics. Mr. Nunes responded by removing himself as the overseer of the committee’s Russia probe.

    But his legacy lives on. Both the Senate and House intelligence committees have summoned former Obama aides as witnesses. It turns out that Samantha Power, as ambassador to the United Nations, made hundreds of unmasking requests, Fox News reported.
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

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    This week's bombshell — that the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign financed former British spy Christopher Steele's salacious dossier allegedly connecting Donald Trump and Russia — may suggest something even more devious. The dossier was compiled by the notorious firm Fusion GPS, which also worked for Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, the very woman who met with Donald Trump Jr. in a meeting deemed pivotal to the case for Trump-Russia "collusion."

    The Fusion GPS connection raises a supremely interesting question: Did the Clinton campaign actually orchestrate the meeting between Trump campaign officials and Veselnitskaya? Is the entire Trump-Russia collusion narrative the result of a Clinton set-up?

    After PJ Media's Liz Sheld suggested the idea to this reporter, it seemed increasingly plausible. Not only does the timeline work out, but Clinton attacked Trump as Putin's puppet and Clinton's connections to Russia had been powerfully reported in 2015. What better way to distract from Clinton's ties to Russia than proving "collusion" on Trump's part?

    When Veselnitskaya met with Donald Trump Jr. and Paul Manafort on June 9, 2016, she pressed them on the adoption issue, part of the Russian efforts to undermine the Magnitsky Act. The act — signed by President Barack Obama in December 2012 — imposed sanctions on individuals and entities responsible for the death of Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, who unearthed massive fraud within the Russian government and was imprisoned, tortured, and killed for it in 2009. Hermitage Capital Management CEO Bill Browder testified that the sanctions "personally" affect Russian President Vladimir Putin's wealth.


    https://pjmedia.com/trending/honeypo...linton-set-up/
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

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    The reaction to this from the left has surprised even me - especially those I consider not hyper-partisan.

    I do think it is strange that

    1. It is somehow criminal - even called treasonous - to have "intent" to go to a Russian lawyer to find dirt on your father's political opponent but actually end up with nothing as the person involved had no information at all ---------- BUT

    2. It's ok to *actually* bankroll a dirt-finding scheme - along with completely and admittedly manufactured stories - by going to Russian *government* officials to get dirt on your opponent.

    So - intending to do it but failing - BAD.
    Succeeding and doing it - Ok.

    Late in the campaign we found out there was a release of a tape where Trump says what he'd like to do to women.
    Again -

    Talking about doing it - gross, vulgar and misogynistic.
    ACTUALLY doing it - in the White House, as President - ok. (And I'm not talking Lewinsky).

    If you're bothered by Trump talking about something, you should be disgusted with a President DOING it.
    If you're bothered that his campaign tried to do something, you ought to be outraged that his opponent ACTUALLY DID IT.
    “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.".Daniel Webster

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    The reaction to this from the left has surprised even me - especially those I consider not hyper-partisan.

    I do think it is strange that

    1. It is somehow criminal - even called treasonous - to have "intent" to go to a Russian lawyer to find dirt on your father's political opponent but actually end up with nothing as the person involved had no information at all ---------- BUT

    2. It's ok to *actually* bankroll a dirt-finding scheme - along with completely and admittedly manufactured stories - by going to Russian *government* officials to get dirt on your opponent.

    So - intending to do it but failing - BAD.
    Succeeding and doing it - Ok.

    Late in the campaign we found out there was a release of a tape where Trump says what he'd like to do to women.
    Again -

    Talking about doing it - gross, vulgar and misogynistic.
    ACTUALLY doing it - in the White House, as President - ok. (And I'm not talking Lewinsky).

    If you're bothered by Trump talking about something, you should be disgusted with a President DOING it.
    If you're bothered that his campaign tried to do something, you ought to be outraged that his opponent ACTUALLY DID IT.
    The one thing you keep forgetting is how liberals think about things.

    First of all, if you're a conservative, you're just evil and everything you do is evil; even if it's a good thing - like tax cuts for everyone. But, if you happen to simply talk to a Russian you must be colluding to undermine this country.

    If you're a liberal, everything you do is for the greater good of this country, and even the world; therefore, even if it's illegal, it's acceptable, because it was for the greater good. Look at how liberals justify the Clinton foundation receiving $140+ million from Russians in exchange for 20% of our uranium reserves. That money went to charities - to help the poor. So what that it was received under allegedly illegal and treasonous means; it was for the greater good.
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    REPORT: Obama Paid Nearly $1 Million To Law Firm That Hired Fusion GPS

    "At the same time that Hillary’s campaign, Obama’s campaign organization, and the DNC were simultaneously paying Perkins Coie, the spouse of one of Fusion GPS’s key employees was working directly for Obama in the West Wing."



    Records filed with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) revealed that Obama’s official campaign organization, Obama For America (OFA), has given over $972,000 to Perkins Coie since last year — the same law firm representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC which hired Fusion GPS to conduct “research” on then-candidate Donald Trump, The Federalist reported.

    Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC at Perkins Coie, hired Fusion GPS in April 2016 to dig up damaging information on Trump. To carry out the task, Fusion GPS hired former British spy Christopher Steele who then got unverified information about Trump from officials in Russia.

    Obama’s campaign made its first payment to Perkins Coie at the same time the law firm hired Fusion GPS — in April 2016:

    OFA, Obama’s official campaign arm in 2016, paid nearly $800,000 to Perkins Coie in 2016 alone, according to FEC records. The first 2016 payments to Perkins Coie, classified only as “Legal Services,” were made April 25-26, 2016, and totaled $98,047. A second batch of payments, also classified as “Legal Services,” were disbursed to the law firm on September 29, 2016, and totaled exactly $700,000. Payments from OFA to Perkins Coie in 2017 totaled $174,725 through August 22, 2017. …

    The timing and nature of the payments to Perkins Coie by Obama’s official campaign arm raise significant questions about whether OFA was funding Fusion GPS, how much Obama and his team knew about the contents and provenance of the dossier long before its contents were made public, and whether the president or his government lieutenants knowingly used a partisan political document to justify official government actions targeting the president’s political opponents named in the dossier.
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

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