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    Joshua 17 Sisters and more magpies

    Joshua 17:1 This was the allotment for the tribe of Manasseh as Joseph’s firstborn, that is, for Makir, Manasseh’s firstborn. Makir was the ancestor of the Gileadites, who had received Gilead and Bashan because the Makirites were great soldiers. 2 So this allotment was for the rest of the people of Manasseh—the clans of Abiezer, Helek, Asriel, Shechem, Hepher and Shemida. These are the other male descendants of Manasseh son of Joseph by their clans.

    3 Now Zelophehad son of Hepher, the son of Gilead, the son of Makir, the son of Manasseh, had no sons but only daughters, whose names were Mahlah, Noah, Hoglah, Milkah and Tirzah. 4 They went to Eleazar the priest, Joshua son of Nun, and the leaders and said, “The Lord commanded Moses to give us an inheritance among our relatives.” So Joshua gave them an inheritance along with the brothers of their father, according to the Lord’s command. 5 Manasseh’s share consisted of ten tracts of land besides Gilead and Bashan east of the Jordan, 6 because the daughters of the tribe of Manasseh received an inheritance among the sons. The land of Gilead belonged to the rest of the descendants of Manasseh.

    7 The territory of Manasseh extended from Asher to Mikmethath east of Shechem. The boundary ran southward from there to include the people living at En Tappuah. 8 (Manasseh had the land of Tappuah, but Tappuah itself, on the boundary of Manasseh, belonged to the Ephraimites.) 9 Then the boundary continued south to the Kanah Ravine. There were towns belonging to Ephraim lying among the towns of Manasseh, but the boundary of Manasseh was the northern side of the ravine and ended at the Mediterranean Sea. 10 On the south the land belonged to Ephraim, on the north to Manasseh. The territory of Manasseh reached the Mediterranean Sea and bordered Asher on the north and Issachar on the east.

    11 Within Issachar and Asher, Manasseh also had Beth Shan, Ibleam and the people of Dor, Endor, Taanach and Megiddo, together with their surrounding settlements (the third in the list is Naphoth[a]).

    12 Yet the Manassites were not able to occupy these towns, for the Canaanites were determined to live in that region. 13 However, when the Israelites grew stronger, they subjected the Canaanites to forced labor but did not drive them out completely.


    a. Joshua 17:11 That is, Naphoth Dor

    I met these daughters before. They were back in Numbers 27:1-11. This is a big deal. Women in those days were considered property. They were only around for chores and childbearing. In the verses day before yesterday I saw Caleb and his daughter having a discussion about the water rights on their land. "What are you doing here?" "I came to ask a favor" That was a big deal back then. Now we see these gutsy women who had the nerve [courage] to stand up for land. That was important. Since men controlled everyone and everything. A woman without a man was just left out.... of everything.... if a man wouldn't take them in.... they would be left with no means of taking care of themselves. They would be homeless and penniless. So they had to help themselves.

    This is from the easy English site.

    Already Moses had given some land to Manasseh. This was on the east side of the river Jordan. Joshua has given some land west of the river Jordan to the tribe of Ephraim. Now Joshua gave some land to the rest of the tribe of Manasseh.

    Zelophehad, one of the leaders of Manasseh, had no sons. He had 5 daughters. If a man had sons and daughters, only the sons could own land. This was the law. The 5 daughters had spoken earlier to Moses (Numbers 27:1-11). Moses asked God what he should do. God said that they could own their father’s property. Moses told this to the 5 daughters. They asked Joshua and Eleazar the priest for the land that Moses had promised to them. Joshua gave it to them.

    Like the other tribes, Manasseh did not defeat the Canaanites. This caused them a lot of trouble later.

    This verification is from the blueletterbible.org site.

    This is noted in the text because it was unusual for women to receive an inheritance. It was more important that the land remain in the ancestral families than it was to follow this custom. Therefore the daughters of Zelophehad could inherit their father's land.

    This comes from the bible.org site.

    This is parallel to 16:10 and Jdgs. 1:28. Moses' commands in Deut. 20:10-18, to allow defeated people to become servants, only applied to cities outside of Canaan. These verses reveal the disobedience of the larger tribes ( Num. 33:55). Even though the Canaanites were made servants, their fertility worship polluted and weakened the worship of YHWH. This would ultimately result in the Assyrian and Babylonian exiles.

    Dysfunctional family, women without means and Magpies.... it's biblical.

    :coffee
    Last edited by seekeroftruth; 10-30-2017 at 09:15 AM.
    seekeroftruth = hotcoffee

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