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    But YOU Cannot Have FireArms

    Liberal logic has always been that the law can't control human behavior; people are going to do what they're going to do whether it's legal or not. That sort of "they're going to do it anyway" reasoning is what the left uses to justify legalizing marijuana, providing welfare to able-bodied individuals who refuse to work, and decriminalizing the millions of intruders who slipped across the border into America illegally.

    The truth is that the occult mantra "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" is the philosophical ideology committed progressives adhere to. Yet when it comes to the Second Amendment, leftist logic controverts what progressives espouse for most social policies.

    Take, for instance, abortion. Liberals believe that abortion must never be banned because, if it is, women determined to kill their offspring will utilize wire hangers and seek out back-alley facilities. Despite the fact that partial-birth abortion is illegal in many states, in 2012, more than 6,000 determined women submitted their doomed children to late-term abortionists who operated slaughterhouses like the one overseen by convicted West Philadelphia murderer Kermit Gosnell.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...n_paradox.html
    Weíre tempted to suggest a conspiracy here ó but itís just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply canít conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    Liberal logic has always been that the law can't control human behavior; people are going to do what they're going to do whether it's legal or not. That sort of "they're going to do it anyway" reasoning is what the left uses to justify legalizing marijuana, providing welfare to able-bodied individuals who refuse to work, and decriminalizing the millions of intruders who slipped across the border into America illegally.

    The truth is that the occult mantra "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" is the philosophical ideology committed progressives adhere to. Yet when it comes to the Second Amendment, leftist logic controverts what progressives espouse for most social policies.

    Take, for instance, abortion. Liberals believe that abortion must never be banned because, if it is, women determined to kill their offspring will utilize wire hangers and seek out back-alley facilities. Despite the fact that partial-birth abortion is illegal in many states, in 2012, more than 6,000 determined women submitted their doomed children to late-term abortionists who operated slaughterhouses like the one overseen by convicted West Philadelphia murderer Kermit Gosnell.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...n_paradox.html
    Thats not just lib logic, conservatives use exactly the same mantra. Moving on to your example about legalizing marijuana though legalizing it shouldn't be because "they'll do it anyways", it should be "because it was a bad idea".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin99 View Post
    Thats not just lib logic, conservatives use exactly the same mantra. Moving on to your example about legalizing marijuana though legalizing it shouldn't be because "they'll do it anyways", it should be "because it was a bad idea".
    Not sure I've heard a lot of conservatives say, "we should make that legal because people will do it anyway."

    Why was it a bad idea?
    There are only two possibilities; one is that we are alone in the universe, the other is that we are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    Not sure I've heard a lot of conservatives say, "we should make that legal because people will do it anyway."

    Why was it a bad idea?
    So we should just tax abortion out of existence........just like making marijuana Legal
    $3,000.00per abortion...$5,000,00 for twins
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird Dog View Post
    So we should just tax abortion out of existence........just like making marijuana Legal
    $3,000.00per abortion...$5,000,00 for twins
    Lol....
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    I just reported you. You are one scary individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    Not sure I've heard a lot of conservatives say, "we should make that legal because people will do it anyway."

    Why was it a bad idea?
    The same reason prohibition was a bad idea, it wasn't based on reality. Since Mexicans preferred marijuana over tobacco William Randolph Hearst concluded that having it vilified and eventually outlawed it would stop the migration of Mexican north. Before that time it was one the most useful cash crops in the country, behind only cotton and tobacco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin99 View Post
    The same reason prohibition was a bad idea, it wasn't based on reality. Since Mexicans preferred marijuana over tobacco William Randolph Hearst concluded that having it vilified and eventually outlawed it would stop the migration of Mexican north. Before that time it was one the most useful cash crops in the country, behind only cotton and tobacco.
    And, cocaine was a staple of Coca-Cola. Not sure what that has to do with the 21st century. We've modified a cubic butt ton of laws since then, why not this one?
    There are only two possibilities; one is that we are alone in the universe, the other is that we are not.
    Both are terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    And, cocaine was a staple of Coca-Cola. Not sure what that has to do with the 21st century. We've modified a cubic butt ton of laws since then, why not this one?
    Cocaine was an ingredient because it was a pain reliever for morphine addiction. I'm sure you think you've made some point, but it's evading me. It was a bad idea in the 19th century, piling on years isn't going to suddenly make it a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin99 View Post
    Cocaine was an ingredient because it was a pain reliever for morphine addiction. I'm sure you think you've made some point, but it's evading me. It was a bad idea in the 19th century, piling on years isn't going to suddenly make it a good idea.
    But, what about it is a bad idea? You said said a publisher's nationalism caused people who were making gobs of money off a great product to be in favor of making it illegal, but you never said why it was a bad idea. What about it is unrealistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    But, what about it is a bad idea? You said said a publisher's nationalism caused people who were making gobs of money off a great product to be in favor of making it illegal, but you never said why it was a bad idea. What about it is unrealistic?
    Let me answer your question with a question, was the eighteenth amendment a good idea?
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