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    Is America the laughingstock of the world?

    Sappy et al keep insisting it is, but I'm not seeing any signs of it. My first thought was that the rest of the world thought we were hilarious because we cater to our LCD and any time some random mental case bitches about some insignificant thing, we rush to "fix it". Then I remembered France. And Great Britain. And Australia. And the rest of them who make us look positively draconian. Those are the countries that I always laughed at, and the US going down that path might make me think we're a laughingstock, but that's the part the rest of the world likes.

    The Chinese probably think we're a laughingstock because they don't play that #### there. Go ahead, kiddo, protest and jump up and down about your "rights" - they'll run you over with a tank.

    I can see the Muslim extremists laughing their asses off at us. "OMG, we blow up their buildings, kill their citizens...and they STILL jump through hoops to meet our petty demands. What's it gonna take to make you pansies fight??"

    The Mexicans almost certainly laugh at us. Until recently, the lowliest most uneducated Mexican thug could still outsmart our President. That always made me laugh, when it wasn't infuriating me.

    If I were a person in a foreign country and my only impression of the US came from Hollywood and our pop culture, I'd be laughing at us because our celebrity worship in this country is just ridiculous. We're like a nation of teenage fangirls drooling over someone because they're pretty. We know more about the characters in Game of Thrones than we do our own family members.

    But I know that the Lefties admire those traits, so that's not why they think we're a laughingstock. We lead in pretty much every category that matters, so I'm not sure why our inferiors would be laughing about that.
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    I do not know the answer to that but I suspect we are, not because it is warranted but more so because of our long history of pandering. I go to the UK often and they are infatuated with Trump and our reactions to him. Both prior to and since the election if you get into a conversation with a UK citizen within minutes they will ask your opinion of Trump. This last trip I was outside a pub and a group of college kids heard my accent and they gathered around to ask about Trump. We actually had a great conversation. It started with them having the typical liberal ideals and talking points but as the conversation progressed they got the points I made. We needed to control out borders, out fight against poverty was being thwarted by the social constructs created here for decades that promote poverty, our views on education and globalization. I do not think I changed any minds but they did seem to get it and think about it. In other words they were open minded and were willing to at least consider other points of view.

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    Curious.

    Did the subject of the UKs borders and the flood of ME immigrants come up?
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    I go to the UK often and they are infatuated with Trump and our reactions to him. Both prior to and since the election if you get into a conversation with a UK citizen within minutes they will ask your opinion of Trump.
    Same happened to me recently when I was in Norway and Denmark. The most recent pub encounter was in Denmark a couple weeks ago and almost ended badly because I refused to "engage" in the topic with a local patron who who clearly had some aggressively negative views of Trump and, by association, anyone who wouldn't denigrate him.

    An extended discussion with a couple Norwegians went much better; they were more just genuinely curious and trying to understand how we could have elected "someone like Trump".

    Bottom line: The majority of people from Western Europe and Scandinavia wholeheartedly endorsed Barry's "One World/All Equal/Diminished and Timid USA" approach. So they definitely do not like Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    Curious.

    Did the subject of the UKs borders and the flood of ME immigrants come up?
    Not really, they know their own issues they seem infatuated with ours. Actually, not even our issues, it seems they are infatuated with Trump and seem surprised at his support and election. I suppose it is somewhat interesting. Here we are the USA and we have repeatedly elected politicians who tight rope walk everything as to not offend anyone even those who should be offended, then BOOM we bring in Trump who calls a spade a spade......and a club a spade for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    Same happened to me recently when I was in Norway and Denmark. The most recent pub encounter was in Denmark a couple weeks ago and almost ended badly because I refused to "engage" in the topic with a local patron who who clearly had some aggressively negative views of Trump and, by association, anyone who wouldn't denigrate him.

    An extended discussion with a couple Norwegians went much better; they were more just genuinely curious and trying to understand how we could have elected "someone like Trump".

    Bottom line: The majority of people from Western Europe and Scandinavia wholeheartedly endorsed Barry's "One World/All Equal/Diminished and Timid USA" approach. So they definitely do not like Trump.
    I would suppose Europeans and Scandinavians in particular would have trouble understanding Americanism. Their circumstances are completely different form ours. They live in much smaller societies, they have had big government for hundreds of years, confined spaces where people have to get along, not a world power and have no desire to project power and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Actually, not even our issues, it seems they are infatuated with Trump and seem surprised at his support and election.
    That ^. To what seems to me a remarkable degree. It occupies a significant proportion of their public and private discourse...their media are all over any topic or story involving Trump...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I go to the UK often and they are infatuated with Trump and our reactions to him. Both prior to and since the election if you get into a conversation with a UK citizen within minutes they will ask your opinion of Trump.
    Trump is a rock star in Montreal. Everyone we talked to thinks he's great and aren't quite as complimentary toward young Trudeau. If I were smarter, I'd have brought a bunch of MAGA hats and sold them on the street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    Trump is a rock star in Montreal. Everyone we talked to thinks he's great and aren't quite as complimentary toward young Trudeau.
    Now THAT is interesting....encouraging even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Not really, they know their own issues they seem infatuated with ours. Actually, not even our issues, it seems they are infatuated with Trump and seem surprised at his support and election. I suppose it is somewhat interesting. Here we are the USA and we have repeatedly elected politicians who tight rope walk everything as to not offend anyone even those who should be offended, then BOOM we bring in Trump who calls a spade a spade......and a club a spade for that matter.
    I would have figured he call it a "####ing shovel!"
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