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    California Considers Placing A Mileage Tax On Drivers

    SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) — California is moving closer to charging drivers for every mile they drive.

    The state says it needs more money for road repairs, and the gas tax just isn’t bringing in enough revenue.

    The state recently road-tested a mileage monitoring plan.

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    But it’s not just a question about money, it’s also a question about fairness.

    State Senator Scott Wiener and others are saying that when it comes to road taxes, it’s time to start looking at charging you by the mile rather than by the gallon.

    “If you own an older vehicle that is fueled by gas, you’re paying gas tax to maintain the roads. Someone who has an electric vehicle or a dramatically more fuel efficient vehicle is paying much less than you are. But they are still using the roads,” Wiener said.

    “People are going to use less and less gas in the long run,” according to Wiener.

    And less gas means less gas tax, and less money for road repair.

    “We want to make sure that all cars are paying to maintain the roads,” Wiener said.

    One idea would be installing devices that would clock your mileage every time you pull up to the pump or electric car charging station. Or put a tracker on every car.

    “The reality is that if you have a smartphone your data of where you are traveling is already in existence,” Wiener said.

    None of this is sitting well with drivers such as Joshua Li, the owner of a hybrid BMW.


    California Considers Placing A Mileage Tax On Drivers
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    One idea would be installing devices that would clock your mileage every time you pull up to the pump or electric car charging station. Or put a tracker on every car.

    “The reality is that if you have a smartphone your data of where you are traveling is already in existence,” Wiener said.
    Just...wow.

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    Did that Rascal Paris Glendenning move in with Wacky Jerry Brown and Martin O ???

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    They seriously need to get educated and go back to the drawing board.

    Without trying to research the actual numbers, I can't imagine the number of electric/hybrid cars currently on the road in CA pose much of a threat to the taxes. Can't be but a few percent of the total car population. That may change in the future, and I do agree revenue will dwindle as that happens.

    But they are willing to reinvent the wheel and throw a ton of money at tracking. Dumb. How long before people figure out how to remove or disable attached trackers? And using a cell phone to track? Not as easy as he makes it sound. How do you account for walking and airflight? And privacy issues abound.

    Nearly every vehicle made in the past 10 years already has diagnostics built in which can give you mileage from the odometer remotely. Already in place, already accessible, already used by the car makers to tell you when you need to have your car checked.

    Not a very well thought out implementation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    Just...wow.

    have you priced car insurance lately ...
    I was checking online recently ...

    - the 1st policy offered, and the cheapest of course
    - install this app on your smart phone or install this device to your ODB II port so we can track you ....


    Quote Originally Posted by GWguy View Post
    They seriously need to get educated and go back to the drawing board.

    Without trying to research the actual numbers, I can't imagine the number of electric/hybrid cars currently on the road in CA pose much of a threat to the taxes. Can't be but a few percent of the total car population. That may change in the future, and I do agree revenue will dwindle as that happens.
    Oregon has been playing the same tune for at least 10 yrs now ... [although they don't specifically blame Hybrid Cars]
    Revenue from gas taxes are down, because of Fuel Efficient Vehicles ......

    so yeah the FED demands [through laws] fuel efficient vehicles - small unsafe vehicles nobody wants
    states come along 20 yrs later - we are losing money because #efficiency we need mileage trackers
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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    Losing money due to efficieny/hybrids/electrics? Or spending gas tax money on this that are not roads realted like bike paths and railways that the people driving in cars dont use? Or bailing out lagging general funds due to stupid spending on other things like Casa De Maryland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glhs837 View Post
    Losing money due to efficieny/hybrids/electrics? Or spending gas tax money on this that are not roads related like bike paths and railways that the people driving in cars dont use?
    This ...
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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