GOP Ending House Russia Probe Despite Democrats’ Objections

[GURPS]

Representative Adam Schiff of California, the panel’s top Democrat said Republicans on the committee have been under pressure to end the investigation and doing so now “represents yet another capitulation to the executive branch."

“By ending its oversight role in the only authorized investigation in the House, the majority has placed the interests of protecting the president over protecting the country, and history will judge its actions harshly,” Schiff added.



GOP Ending House Russia Probe Despite Democrats’ Objections




if Schiff had anything he would have leaked it to the press

 

[Hijinx]

Representative Adam Schiff of California, the panel’s top Democrat said Republicans on the committee have been under pressure to end the investigation and doing so now “represents yet another capitulation to the executive branch."

“By ending its oversight role in the only authorized investigation in the House, the majority has placed the interests of protecting the president over protecting the country, and history will judge its actions harshly,” Schiff added.



GOP Ending House Russia Probe Despite Democrats’ Objections




if Schiff had anything he would have leaked it to the press

Now there is a guy who is full of ####.

 

[Bird Dog]

Now there is a guy who is full of ####.

It was the only way he could get his mug on TV.......of course he’s upset

 

[SamSpade]

I can't figure Schiff out. He's either profoundly delusional or just playing to his base.

You know, it's not JUST Congress investigating, and outside of all of them, there's the press who is searching for evidence.
In over a year, no one has turned up anything except what we already knew - that Russians tried to influence an election
as they have for as long as they've been an adversary. That's an observation as pointless as saying that water is wet or
the sun rises in the east. We know this. The only thing that is relevant is did anyone seek their assistance?
And there's never been any reason to think there was except the larger issue of losing an election, which everyone
agrees, the outcome would not have changed at all.

The efforts they produced were dwarfed colossally by the money actually SPENT by the candidates and their supporters
during the actual campaign. Saying the Russians tried to interfere is like saying I raised the ocean level by pissing in it.
Sure it's true, but it is incredibly inconsequential.

So the only thing that matters is, did anyone SEEK their help for their otherwise hugely ineffective and paltry effort
that in the end made no tiny measurable difference. Why? Because it's against the law - NOT because they changed an
election.

But Schiff and others like him cannot be satisfied. They can't. They strut about implying the election was stolen,
knowing very well it could not have been. WAS not, COULD not.

 

[Agee]

Remember, the Muller investigation is still ongoing...

those shady deals with the Saudis and issues totally beyond the scope of the initial intent of the investigation

 

[awpitt]

This was a partisan hack investigation to begin with. It's irrelevant.

 

[vraiblonde]

But Schiff and others like him cannot be satisfied. They can't. They strut about implying the election was stolen,
knowing very well it could not have been. WAS not, COULD not.

They're playing to their base. The Saps and Trans' of the world. Schiff will take whatever position will get him re-elected.

This was a partisan hack investigation to begin with. It's irrelevant.

Sure is costing a #### ton of money.

 

[Hijinx]

They're playing to their base. The Saps and Trans' of the world. Schiff will take whatever position will get him re-elected.




Sure is costing a #### ton of money.

The Democrats are taking after their heroine.
She is still making excuses why she lost, so they do the same thing.
They keep looking everywhere for why they lost except to the fact that they ran a criminal.

 

[Bird Dog]

Remember, the Muller investigation is still ongoing...

those shady deals with the Saudis and issues totally beyond the scope of the initial intent of the investigation

So, now its the Saudis? What happened to the Russians? What happened to collusion?
Next year it will the Zimbabweans.......just sayin'

 

[transporter]

I can't figure Schiff out. He's either profoundly delusional or just playing to his base.

You know, it's not JUST Congress investigating, and outside of all of them, there's the press who is searching for evidence.
In over a year, no one has turned up anything except what we already knew - that Russians tried to influence an election
as they have for as long as they've been an adversary. That's an observation as pointless as saying that water is wet or
the sun rises in the east. We know this. The only thing that is relevant is did anyone seek their assistance?
And there's never been any reason to think there was except the larger issue of losing an election, which everyone
agrees, the outcome would not have changed at all.

The efforts they produced were dwarfed colossally by the money actually SPENT by the candidates and their supporters
during the actual campaign. Saying the Russians tried to interfere is like saying I raised the ocean level by pissing in it.
Sure it's true, but it is incredibly inconsequential.

So the only thing that matters is, did anyone SEEK their help for their otherwise hugely ineffective and paltry effort
that in the end made no tiny measurable difference. Why? Because it's against the law - NOT because they changed an
election.

But Schiff and others like him cannot be satisfied. They can't. They strut about implying the election was stolen,
knowing very well it could not have been. WAS not, COULD not.

From the perspective of the "investigations" I agree with your point that the conspiracy question is the one that needs to be answered.

Disagree with the "piss in the ocean", look at the amount of money spent points.

The Russians didn't need to flip the entire country...they only needed to target specific districts within specific states. No need to target CA or OK...they are blue and red...not gonna change. Flip a few districts in FL, PA, OH...states that are always in play and bingo you effect the entire election. THIS is also a very pertinent question (but beyond the capabilities of most on here to understand.)

 

[transporter]

They're playing to their base. The Saps and Trans' of the world. Schiff will take whatever position will get him re-elected.
.

So...who is Nunes playing too?

The House "investigation" was a joke.

 

[This_person]

Disagree with the "piss in the ocean", look at the amount of money spent points.

So, the amount spent proves value?

The Russians didn't need to flip the entire country...they only needed to target specific districts within specific states. No need to target CA or OK...they are blue and red...not gonna change. Flip a few districts in FL, PA, OH...states that are always in play and bingo you effect the entire election. THIS is also a very pertinent question (but beyond the capabilities of most on here to understand.)

Except, they did not target those districts, or target simply helping Trump, or anything like what you are suggesting.

It is commonly accepted among non-partisan people who read what happened that they were (as they have been for decades) under Obama's administration trying to sew dissent in the US against media and our political system.

This has been true for a long, long, long time. This election wasn't new.

 

[This_person]

So...who is Nunes playing too?

:shrug: Facts?

The House "investigation" was a joke.

As are all of the others on this subject. There's not a single thing to imply collusion, it wasn't a new thing for outside forces to try and "influence" our elections (we do it all the time to others, like Obama recently did in Israel), and there's as much evidence their "influence" was anti-Trump as it was anti-HRC. Any investigation into Russian "collusion" is a joke.

If we want to investigate Russian "influence", or "meddling", why did Obama not do a damned thing?

 

[SamSpade]

Disagree with the "piss in the ocean", look at the amount of money spent points.

The Russians didn't need to flip the entire country...they only needed to target specific districts within specific states. No need to target CA or OK...they are blue and red...not gonna change. Flip a few districts in FL, PA, OH...states that are always in play and bingo you effect the entire election. THIS is also a very pertinent question (but beyond the capabilities of most on here to understand.)

Did YOU know that Trump would win PA and WI and MI? Really? No one else did. So you're thinking maybe the Russians did, too?
The fact that a small number of voters in this or that district could have changed the outcome of an election is Monday morning quarterbacking - this has been true of several elections in the last 20 years.
If people knew that a few people in Ohio or a few in Illinois could have made a difference, they'd have spent a fortune on them.

It IS piss in the ocean. Fact is, Trump and Clinton spent BILLIONS - as did those supporting them as well.
Russians spent what, 100 grand on Facebook ads? A million? Two million? It's still chump change.

They didn't tamper with machines, they didn't falsify ballots - the very best anyone can claim is they tried to change people's minds.

Which is what CAMPAIGNS do.

They chose a few spots to target.

Which is why candidates campaign in battleground states - because most of them are a lock already.

So, sorry. Piss in the ocean. I'd bet that George Soros or the Koch brothers vastly outspent the Russians.
They made NO difference.

 

[GURPS]

Flip a few districts in FL, PA, OH...states that are always in play and bingo you effect the entire election. THIS is also a very pertinent question (but beyond the capabilities of most on here to understand.)

the 2 mil spent saw NOTHING compared to the billion spent by BOTH PARTIES, Local and advocacy ads

the Russians spent equally on both sides ...

 

[Gilligan]

So...who is Nunes playing too?

The House "investigation" was a joke.

So you aren't a Schiff fan either. Good.

 

[Hijinx]

If you want to see a joke look up Mueller.

 

[stgislander]

Sen. Blumenthal (D-CT) was saying today that since the House committee wouldn't do it's job, it was up to the Senate committee to get to the truth.

 

[officeguy]

The Russians didn't need to flip the entire country...they only needed to target specific districts within specific states. No need to target CA or OK...they are blue and red...not gonna change. Flip a few districts in FL, PA, OH...states that are always in play and bingo you effect the entire election. THIS is also a very pertinent question (but beyond the capabilities of most on here to understand.)

There is simply no evidence that they did an effective job targeting swing districts. Heck, one of their US emissaries had to tell them what 'purple states' are. Even their focussed erffort on FL was laughable. A couple of Facebook ad buys and 'rallys' attended by individuals in single digit numbers.

 

[Gilligan]

Sen. Blumenthal (D-CT) was saying today that since the House committee wouldn't do it's job, it was up to the Senate committee to get to the truth.

Sen. Dick (Dick) Blumenthal couldn't find his own arse with both hands.