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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    My 1995 Saturn got 35 Highway .... or higher, until that crap fest 10% Ethanol mandate ... where by I lost 5 Mpg per tank

    how is that 'saving' the environment if I burn more fuel per tank
    Years ago in the early 80's, my Dodge Omni got 51 mpg. What the heck happened?
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    Company I worked for in late 70s through 81 had three VW Rabbits for a sales fleet. Diesel with manual trans. They got around 50 mpg too.
    "Dark humor is like food. Not everyone gets it." - J. Stalin

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    Years ago in the early 80's, my Dodge Omni got 51 mpg. What the heck happened?
    We decided that living was better than dying, and that quiet and comfortable was better than noisy and uncomfortable. Things like airbags, crumple zones, and insulation weigh. Those things weigh like 2500lbs.
    "I aim to misbehave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by glhs837 View Post
    We decided that living was better than dying, and that quiet and comfortable was better than noisy and uncomfortable. Things like airbags, crumple zones, and insulation weigh. Those things weigh like 2500lbs.
    Interesting. That Omni was destroyed in a crash - that I walked away from without a scratch.
    It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds." Teddy Roosevelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    Interesting. That Omni was destroyed in a crash - that I walked away from without a scratch.
    It's fortunate that it wasn't a Pinto..

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    You have a psychiatric disorder. Get help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    It's fortunate that it wasn't a Pinto ....


    rear end most any vehicle with a dump truck ...
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade View Post
    Interesting. That Omni was destroyed in a crash - that I walked away from without a scratch.
    The kind of crash matters, of course. But most would place you in far greater danger.

    78 Omni

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0H89lQatAQ

    2017 Fiesta forward to the 30 second mark to catch the switch to full on 30mph crash to compare.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAEUuw5l3Os
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