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[transporter]

Is this the re-election slogan: "Make China Great Again" /

So good to see our illustrious President so concerned about jobs for "China people"!

President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533

Screw the soybean farmers...the Boeing employees...those Carrier employees...good ol' Trump is concerned about unemployed Chinese!!

Some additional comments here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...et-back-into-business/?utm_term=.b9bdc7c7ff03

You know like these:

Last month, the Commerce Department penalized ZTE for violating a settlement with the U.S. government over illegal shipments to Iran and North Korea, barring U.S. firms for seven years from exporting critical microchips and other parts to ZTE

Trump’s announcement on Sunday in the Twitter post caught many of his advisers flat-footed as there had not been a broad agreement to change the administration's approach

It’s highly unusual for a president to personally intervene in a regulatory matter, which could undercut the leverage of Treasury and Commerce officials seeking to enforce sanctions and trade rules.

 

[Monello]

Let me know when he ships $1.7 billion bucks to a country that hates us.

 

[littlelady]

Let me know when he ships $1.7 billion bucks to a country that hates us.

I was, always, confused about that covert transaction. Was it Iran’s money, or not?

 

[Hijinx]

I don't take comments by the WAPO seriously. Just like I don't take comments by Transporter seriously.

Why:

Because both are so biased against the President that neither actually see's the question in a fair way.
They automatically take a stance against whatever the President does.

So in reality their view is always antagonistic.

 

[This_person]

Is this the re-election slogan: "Make China Great Again" /

So good to see our illustrious President so concerned about jobs for "China people"!



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533

Screw the soybean farmers...the Boeing employees...those Carrier employees...good ol' Trump is concerned about unemployed Chinese!!

Some additional comments here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...et-back-into-business/?utm_term=.b9bdc7c7ff03

You know like these:

 

[GURPS]

Yeah I am not sure why America cares if ZTE fails or not

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Let me know when he ships $1.7 billion bucks to a country that hates us.

I was, always, confused about that covert transaction. Was it Iran’s money, or not?

Iran wanted to buy some military equipment back in the 70's and we didn't deliver. Decades go by and interest builds up. That's what the money was, not some plot by Obama to hand almost $2 billion to Iran....regardless of what some members of this forum want to believe.

The money settles a dispute over a $400 million payment made in the 1970s by the U.S.-backed shah's government for military equipment. The equipment was never delivered because of the 1979 Islamic Revolution that overthrew the shah and ended diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Iran.

On Jan. 17, the administration paid Iran the account's $400 million principal in pallets of euros, Swiss francs and other foreign currency, raising questions about the unusual payment. The $1.3 billion covers what Iran and the U.S. agreed would be the interest on the $400 million over the decades.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/24/us-paid-iran-1-3b-two-days-after-400m-cash-transfer.html

The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a 37-year-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s.

White House officials had said that they believed the U.S. would lose the arbitration case over the initial $400 million payment, made by the last Shah of Iran months before the Islamic Revolution. Such a decision would have made them liable for much more money.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...er-to-iran-in-foreign-cash-treasury-says.html

Here's a story that goes more in depth on the issue than the Fox News stories above:
http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Yeah I am not sure why America cares if ZTE fails or not

We shouldn't even care if American companies fail or not, but it's a bit more hypocritical that the President who constantly preaches "America first" is suddenly worried about a Chinese comapny that historical violates sanctions and has apparently done enough for the Pentagon to restruct ZTE sales on bases.

Instead of recognizing that, we get comments like the ones above.

 

[GURPS]

.... but it's a bit more hypocritical that the President who constantly preaches "America first" is suddenly worried about a Chinese company that historical violates sanctions and has apparently done enough for the Pentagon to restrict ZTE sales on bases.

hence my comment .... maybe I should have said - why does Trump care if ZTE fails Because of Sanctions

Instead of recognizing that, we get comments like the ones above.

your point was what exactly :shrug:

 

[GURPS]

Sen. Chuck Schumer is a true Never Trumper. He opposes every single thing President Trump tries to do, and he'll do anything he has to do to thwart Trump's agenda -- anything.

In January, Schumer gave his word to provide $25 billion to Trump to fund new border security measures -- as long as Trump agreed to permanent legal protections for illegal aliens. Then, he broke his word and withdrew the offer. Schumer has bashed Trump for his overtures to denuclearize the Korean peninsula -- even though the president is on the brink of ending the Korean War -- and vehemently opposed Trump's huge tax cut for the middle class.

Schumer is also part of the Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton push for globalization. To Schumer, other nations are just as important as -- sometimes more important than -- the United States. He's bashed Trump for pulling out of a terrible trade deal and abandoning the excessively costly Paris climate accord.

So it comes as a real surprise that Schumer is now parroting Trump, who swept to the White House on a motto of "America First."


https://www.dailywire.com/news/30595/democrat-chuck-schumer-now-completely-agrees-joseph-curl

 

[SamSpade]

That's what the money was, not some ...

Yes, we know. So? Why give that damned place a single nickel?
Number one supporter of terrorism in the world - and we give them money.
You don't give your *enemy* money, period.
Their Friday prayers have included "Death to America" for years. (Certainly not without tying some kind of concession to it.)
Cato the Elder would be impressed.

But that's the way we were doing business with bad guys - hey, let's trade five Taliban commanders for a deserter.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Yes, we know. So? Why give that damned place a single nickel?
Number one supporter of terrorism in the world - and we give them money.

It was their money. :shrug:

 

[Gilligan]

It was their money. :shrug:

We should have deducted that from the cost of our embassy.

 

[SamSpade]

It was their money. :shrug:

Fine them for forty years of funding terrorism.
Then call it even.

 

[GURPS]

Yes, we know. So? Why give that damned place a single nickel?
Number one supporter of terrorism in the world - and we give them money.
You don't give your *enemy* money, period.

 

[PsyOps]

Iran wanted to buy some military equipment back in the 70's and we didn't deliver. Decades go by and interest builds up. That's what the money was, not some plot by Obama to hand almost $2 billion to Iran....regardless of what some members of this forum want to believe.

I don't think it's any coincidence that it was Obama that released that cash to them, and in the covert manner that he did it. It's not hard to be convinced how that cash would be spent by a country that is the #1 sponsor of Islamic terrorism.

 

[PsyOps]

It was their money. :shrug:

I look at it as a child that misbehaves and you take his favorite toy away until he shows that he's not to misbehave anymore. It's his toy, but doesn't deserve it.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

I don't think it's any coincidence that it was Obama that released that cash to them, and in the covert manner that he did it.

I don't think so either.

The U.S. announced the controversial nuclear deal with Iran on July 13, 2015. At a news conference on January 16, President Obama declared that the U.S. was lifting the first raft of sanctions against Iran. He also stated that the U.S. would return $1.7 billion to Iran, as agreed in the negotiations at the Hague. That same day, Tehran released the U.S. hostages, and the U.S. freed seven Iranians detained for violating financial and other U.S. sanctions on their home country. Hence, the return of the five Americans appeared to be one side of a prisoner exchange with Tehran.

But Obama didn’t mention that the same day, $400 million was being shipped over 6000 miles for deposit in Iran’s treasury. “Normally you’d use a bank transfer,” says Sick. “But Congress banned dollar transfers to Iran, so the government had to find another way. So they bought foreign currency, and transferred it in cash.”

http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/

 

[GURPS]

ZTE, the No. 4 smartphone manufacturer in the US, was blocked from importing and licensing American technology and services by the US Department of Commerce in April. This ban stems from the fact that, in 2017, the Chinese company pleaded guilty to illegally and deceptively shipping devices, ones containing US-made components, to a sanctioned Iran and North Korea, under a prior CEO.

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ZTE uses components and software from several US companies, and American consumers and allied governments are at risk without software updates.

"Millions of US consumers, hundreds of US suppliers, and allies around the world are affected by this," said people familiar with the impact of the commerce ban. "ZTE supports thousands of high-tech jobs around the United States."

In 2017, ZTE procured $2.3 billion (about £1.7b, AU$3b) of goods, software and technology spread out of over 200 US suppliers. Its biggest suppliers, of which ZTE spent $100 million on each in the last year, include Qualcomm, Broadcom, Intel, Texas Instruments, Xilinx, Akasha Communications and SanDisk.

Qualcomm may lose $500 million if the denial order were to stay in place, but talking to people familiar with these firms, a company like Akasha Communication is more at risk.


https://www.techradar.com/news/the-...zte-a-stay-of-execution-in-its-death-sentence

So transporter, aren't you always railing about the 'Global' Economy, and hoe Trump and Ameria 1st is so selfish and narrow minded


.... maybe this about more that ZTE's 70,000 employees world wide

.... and American Companies that do business with ZTE

.... although they certainly sleazy maybe we should cuts

 

[This_person]

So transporter, aren't you always railing about the 'Global' Economy, and hoe Trump and Ameria 1st is so selfish and narrow minded


.... maybe this about more that ZTE's 70,000 employees world wide

.... and American Companies that do business with ZTE

.... although they certainly sleazy maybe we should cuts

To Trans, if the foreign policy decision is good for someone else overseas AND for the US, it is a bad decision because it is Trump's decision and we must hate it. Conversely, if it is good for the United States and bad for someone overseas, it is a bad decision because it is Trump's decision and we must hate it.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, to Trans if the situation is complicated and there are both good and bad results, there are only bad results.