Left Finally Admits They Pack Courts With Politicized Judges, And Plan To Amp It Up

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The proposal is simple: when Democrats next hold the presidency and Senate, they should pack the courts to ensure that the Left can achieve its goals. Instead of only nominating judges for existing vacancies, they would expand the courts and fill the new positions with left-wing judges. These “living constitutionalists” would reinterpret the laws and the Constitution to advance the Left’s agenda. Just keep adding new Supreme Court justices who believe the Constitution means whatever the Left wants, until they add up to a majority.

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Much of the motivation behind the Left’s court-packing plot is due to projection. They use judicial power arbitrarily, so they believe everyone will. They cannot believe that anyone would relinquish power. But originalism is the antithesis of arbitrary power. Rather than trying to twist the law to align with policy preferences, it restricts policy preferences in accordance with the law. This does not mean that the best policy (as judges see it) always wins in court. But it provides something of inestimable worth in human affairs—limits on arbitrary power.

Originalists want judicial opinions that are legally correct, even when they dislike the policy outcomes. They condemn opinions that are legally wrong, even if they like the policy outcomes. The Supreme Court’s recent ruling regarding sports betting law is a case in point. Originalists cheered it not because they are all big fans of gambling, but because it was legally correct. A lawyer who cannot quickly provide examples of such cases is one who has no respect for the rule of law.

Originalists follow the example of Scalia, who declared that many laws are “stupid but constitutional” (and by implication, that some good laws are be unconstitutional). For example, I think that many occupational licensing schemes across this nation are terrible policy—it is asinine for DC to require childcare workers to have college degrees—but I am skeptical of claims that they are unconstitutional.

Left Finally Admits They Pack Courts With Politicized Judges, And Plan To Amp It Up
The proposal is simple: when Democrats next hold the presidency and Senate, they should pack the courts to ensure that the Left can achieve its goals.
 

Kyle

ULTRA-F###ING-MAGA!
PREMO Member
Wasn't getting a conservative judge in SCOTUS one of the main arguments for electing Trump?

Actually the goal is to get "Constructionist" or "Originalist" judges, whichever term you prefer, back on the SC.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Actually the goal is to get "Constructionist" or "Originalist" judges, whichever term you prefer, back on the SC.



:yay:


Yes NON Activist Judges .... Judges NOT making up law from their 'feelings'
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Wasn't getting a conservative judge in SCOTUS one of the main arguments for electing Trump?

Sure. With a vacancy, Hillary would have certainly tipped the court in her favor, since it was pretty even after Scalia's death.

Of course, recognizing that at all is admission that, yes, they do tend to lean left or right.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Wasn't getting a conservative judge in SCOTUS one of the main arguments for electing Trump?

I believe you missed a key part of the first paragraph in the OP
The proposal is simple: when Democrats next hold the presidency and Senate, they should pack the courts to ensure that the Left can achieve its goals. Instead of only nominating judges for existing vacancies, they would expand the courts and fill the new positions with left-wing judges.

However, the title of the thread says "finally". Historically, this is inaccurate. This was certainly attempted (and failed) in 1937:
History.com said:
On February 5, 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt announces a controversial plan to expand the Supreme Court to as many as 15 judges, allegedly to make it more efficient. Critics immediately charged that Roosevelt was trying to “pack” the court and thus neutralize Supreme Court justices hostile to his New Deal.

During the previous two years, the high court had struck down several key pieces of New Deal legislation on the grounds that the laws delegated an unconstitutional amount of authority to the executive branch and the federal government. Flushed with his landslide reelection in 1936, President Roosevelt issued a proposal in February 1937 to provide retirement at full pay for all members of the court over 70. If a justice refused to retire, an “assistant” with full voting rights was to be appointed, thus ensuring Roosevelt a liberal majority. Most Republicans and many Democrats in Congress opposed the so-called “court-packing” plan.

If a few justices hadn't caved on Social Security and Labor Relations, FDR would have tried to go through with his extortion plan (can you call it anything else?). In the end, since the New Deal was unconstitutional, a lot of it was declared unconstitutional by the SCOTUS. They left a couple of things to make sure the judicial branch was not made essentially irrelevant by the other two branches (though, Congress was unlikely to go along, you never know).
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Sure. With a vacancy, Hillary would have certainly tipped the court in her favor, since it was pretty even after Scalia's death.

Is it any wonder that Scalia passed during Obama's regime, to ensure he could name just one more associate justice?

Of course, recognizing that at all is admission that, yes, they do tend to lean left or right.

Recognizing reality is a basic act during a Trump administration (see: Jerusalem). Associate and Chief Justices are tasked with interpretation, nuance, and opinion. If the letter of the law is clear, we do not need a SCOTUS. Since we need a SCOTUS, it is inevitable that interpretation will be based on philosophy, nuance based on basic assumptions.

Where judges and SCOTUS get into trouble is when the intent of a law is clear, but they don't like the intent so they issue bench-laws. Or, when they make demands that are outside of their authority (see: school desegregation). That type of overreach should be nullified just like bad laws should be nullified - as a last resort, but it's still on the list.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
Sure. With a vacancy, Hillary would have certainly tipped the court in her favor, since it was pretty even after Scalia's death.

Of course, recognizing that at all is admission that, yes, they do tend to lean left or right.

I have, always, thought Scalia’s death was suspicious. And, it has gotten worse from there.

And, I never understood why his family didn’t want an autopsy.
 
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BOP

Well-Known Member
I have, always, thought Scalia’s death was suspicious. And, it has gotten worse from there.

And, I never understood why his family didn’t want an autopsy.

You're not the only one, and I never saw anything even in the conservative media.
 
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