Teen to Pelosi On Armed Guards: Your Building Is Secure

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
"Where does the government stand on arming and training our teachers, much in the way we use air marshals on airplanes?" asked Santa Fe senior Alexis Wilson.

Pelosi offered sympathies to Wilson over the shooting but concluded that she and her Democrat colleagues "do not think that is the solution."

"Following a tragedy like this all we want to do is pray for the families, but I do not support arming teachers and the rest," Pelosi stated.

Cuomo, moderating the town hall event, pressed Pelosi about her seeming hypocrisy on the issue.

"There’s a little bit of an either-or problem with how we’re trying to approach solutions. ... The building we’re in now, the building you work in, the point of entry there is secure," he said. "You don’t walk in with a trench coat with a shotgun underneath your jacket, and get in. It doesn’t happen, you know this."

The CNN cameras panned to Wilson in the audience, who was clapping to show support for Cuomo's pushback.



WATCH: Santa Fe Survivor, CNN Challenge Nancy Pelosi On Armed Guards: Your Building Is Secure
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Santa Fe High School shooting survivor Alexis Wilson was a given a chance to ask about strengthening security measures at schools. "Where does the government stand on arming and training our teachers, much in the way we use air marshals on airplanes?" asked Wilson.

Pelosi responded by summarily dismissing the idea, saying simply that she and her colleagues in the Democratic Party "do not think that is the solution," and adding, "I do not support arming teachers and the rest." That's when Cuomo weighed in.

"There’s a little bit of an either-or problem with how we’re trying to approach solutions," said Cuomo. "The building we’re in now, the building you work in, the point of entry there is secure. You don’t walk in with a trench coat with a shotgun underneath your jacket, and get in. It doesn’t happen, you know this. ... Why can’t that be part of the equation? Talk about universal background checks, fine. Talk about mental health, how to identify them, money for treatment. But why either-or? Why not make the schools safer?"



https://www.dailywire.com/news/3104...s-cuomo-praised-dana-loesch-gun-james-barrett
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Pelosi responded by summarily dismissing the idea, saying simply that she and her colleagues in the Democratic Party "do not think that is the solution," and adding, "I do not support arming teachers and the rest." That's when Cuomo weighed inhttps://www.dailywire.com/news/3104...s-cuomo-praised-dana-loesch-gun-james-barrett

Has she asked her colleagues or does she just tell them what to think? IMO she and Chuck the Schmuck do all the thinking for the whole bunch of Democrats.
The leaders of the Borg. Those who speak for the group that hasn't the courage to think any way but what they are told.
Why do we have all of these representatives and senators when Chuck and Nancy tell them how to vote and they do.
 

transporter

Well-Known Member
just to point out the obvious stupidity:

1. The school in Santa Fe had TWO ARMED officers in the school AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING. Still 10 people are dead. (your "good guys with guns" approach...your historical rants against "gun free" zone are obvious bullsh!t)

2. An armed teacher in a classroom is IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER comparable to an armed US MARSHAL on a plane.

3.Metal detectors are fine....but here's the real question...are you two butt buddies gonna allow your tax money to be spent on metal detectors for ALL schools (this includes schools that serve immigrants, brown people and people of different religious backgrounds)???
 

black dog

Free America
just to point out the obvious stupidity:

1. The school in Santa Fe had TWO ARMED officers in the school AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING. Still 10 people are dead. (your "good guys with guns" approach...your historical rants against "gun free" zone are obvious bullsh!t)

2. An armed teacher in a classroom is IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER comparable to an armed US MARSHAL on a plane.

3.Metal detectors are fine....but here's the real question...are you two butt buddies gonna allow your tax money to be spent on metal detectors for ALL schools (this includes schools that serve immigrants, brown people and people of different religious backgrounds)???



1#.. How many would be dead if they weren't there?
#2.. lots of untrained gun owners shoot and kill many burglars every year.

#3.. Seems most of the schools that serve the lower income communitys you speak of already have metal detectors and armed security..
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
just to point out the obvious stupidity:

1. The school in Santa Fe had TWO ARMED officers in the school AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING. Still 10 people are dead. (your "good guys with guns" approach...your historical rants against "gun free" zone are obvious bullsh!t)
yep just not in the location they were needed, a couple of armed teachers increases the odds of someone being in the right place at the right time.

2. An armed teacher in a classroom is IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER comparable to an armed US MARSHAL on a plane.
yes it is, it's an armed person on your side putting themselves between you and the bad guy.

3.Metal detectors are fine....but here's the real question...are you two butt buddies gonna allow your tax money to be spent on metal detectors for ALL schools (this includes schools that serve immigrants, brown people and people of different religious backgrounds)???
First, what do you have against gays?
Second, we spend money on a huge number of frivolous school projects, why would one more that may actually be good be an issue?
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Hijinx

Well-Known Member
just to point out the obvious stupidity:

1. The school in Santa Fe had TWO ARMED officers in the school AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING. Still 10 people are dead. (your "good guys with guns" approach...your historical rants against "gun free" zone are obvious bullsh!t)

2. An armed teacher in a classroom is IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER comparable to an armed US MARSHAL on a plane.

3.Metal detectors are fine....but here's the real question...are you two butt buddies gonna allow your tax money to be spent on metal detectors for ALL schools (this includes schools that serve immigrants, brown people and people of different religious backgrounds)???

1. You refuse to recognize that armed guards in other schools HAVE saved lives. We don't know how many would have been killed here if not for the gurds and indeed one guard took the shot that may have killed another kid.
2.An armed teacher is not like a US Marshal on a plane. Schools don't fly, but that's just a laugh at your stupid statement.
An armed teacher trained and prepared could perhaps at the very least keep the shooter from coming into her room after shooting in another place.
An armed teacher could at the least fire in self defense if not prepared to go in the hall and face a shooter.
An armed teacher is not near as vulnerable as one that isn't armed.
Much like a home that has a gun a shooter would much rather invade the home of someone without one.

3.Metal detectors are BS in my opinion. If one knows it is there one can always find a way around it, plus the person at the metal detector is the first target of an armed person intent on entering. I also cannot see 1200 students being wanded and having to take their belts off every day to go to school.

4. Thanks for pointing out your obvious stupidity once again.
Why don't you take up knitting---something you might be good at---or get laid. Anything but making a fool of yourself day after day.
 

Toxick

Splat
are you two butt buddies gonna allow your tax money to be spent on metal detectors for ALL schools


Hells yeah!



(this includes schools that serve immigrants, brown people and people of different religious backgrounds)???


Oh - wait....

Would that be illegal immigrants - or the cool ones who are here legally?




And which religions? Hindu, Zoroastrian and Jews are cool. Muslims - not so much.







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Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
just to point out the obvious stupidity:

1. The school in Santa Fe had TWO ARMED officers in the school AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING. Still 10 people are dead. (your "good guys with guns" approach...your historical rants against "gun free" zone are obvious bullsh!t)

2. An armed teacher in a classroom is IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER comparable to an armed US MARSHAL on a plane.

3.Metal detectors are fine....but here's the real question...are you two butt buddies gonna allow your tax money to be spent on metal detectors for ALL schools (this includes schools that serve immigrants, brown people and people of different religious backgrounds)???

*Full disclosure: I'm not sure how I feel about arming teachers.

1. 10 people dead with 2 cops in the school, and no AR-15. Here's an instance where both side's talking points/solutions wouldn't have worked/didn't work. As someone who continually mentions AR-15s and getting them out of the hands of certain people, you could at least acknowledge that fact (but I do understand the audience in this case cares less about the content of your posts and more about taking digs at you because A) They disagree with you, and B) You don't exactly make it hard.

2. Depends. In the context of, "Armed person in an area where unarmed people are prepared to combat any rick of life that may arise" they are similar. In the context of "Highly trained, career law enforcement", no they are not the same (though no one is suggesting arming all teachers without any training) And obviously a plane and classroom are different, so that part is certainly true.

3. Metal detectors have a certian level of failure and only lead to students feeling like they're entering jail. I don't like them for that purpose plus what you mentioned (tax dollars).
 

Kyle

ULTRA-F###ING-MAGA!
PREMO Member
3. Metal detectors have a certian level of failure and only lead to students feeling like they're entering jail. I don't like them for that purpose plus what you mentioned (tax dollars).

School isn't supposed to be an amusement park. The cost, I can understand the resistance. It will be expensive.

As far as the kids go… They're not going to "feel like they're going to jail" if anything they're probably going to end up making a joke out of the whole thing.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
School isn't supposed to be an amusement park. The cost, I can understand the resistance. It will be expensive.

As far as the kids go… They're not going to "feel like they're going to jail" if anything they're probably going to end up making a joke out of the whole thing.

Of course it's not an amusement park, but add a bunch of metal detectors, clear backpacks, and cops (the differing thoughts on ways to end school shootings), it'll happen. Now factor in the idea that schools are no longer policing themselves. They see "something" and call the cops and let them handle it. That has led to overreactions, ridiculous charges, improper "interrogations", etc.
https://reason.com/archives/2017/01/24/why-are-cops-putting-kids-in-c

School shootings are increasingly rare.

American children do not "risk their lives" when they show up to school each morning — or at least, not nearly as much as they do whenever they ride in a car, swim in a pool, or put food in their mouths (an American's lifetime odds of dying in a mass shooting committed in any location is 1 in 11,125; of dying in a car accident is 1 and 491; of drowning is 1 in 1,133; and of choking on food is 1 in 3,461). Criminal victimization in American schools has collapsed in tandem with the overall crime rate, leaving U.S. classrooms safer today than at any time in recent memory.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/there-is-no-epidemic-of-mass-school-shootings.html
 

Kyle

ULTRA-F###ING-MAGA!
PREMO Member
I'm fully aware of how infrequent they occur.

yeah I am certain that there will be over reactions. I hate to burst your bubble Chris but there are over reactions now!

Jesus ####ing Christ! One of your precious Progtard schools called the cops on a six-year-old because he bit a pop tart in the shape of a ####ing pistol.

It's doubtful a few metal detectors could make it any worse.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
What is needed is principlals with common sense and courage backed up by a school board with the same.

Unfortunately we don't have that now.

The principles are frightened of crazed parents and if the principle is frightened , the school boards are pathetically in panic mode scared of parents.
 
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