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    Internet Sales Tax

    Today, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist issued the following statement on the South Dakota v. Wayfair decision:

    "Today the Supreme Court said 'yes—you can be taxed by politicians you do not elect and who act knowing you are powerless to object.' This power can now be used to export sales taxes, personal and corporate income taxes, and opens the door for the European Union to export its tax burden onto American businesses—as they have been demanding.

    If physical nexus is no longer required, as the Quill vs. ND case demanded, for sales taxes then it is no longer required for personal or corporate income taxes.

    Now, California (or any state or city that loses population through exit) can tax people and businesses who do their best to avoid that state or city.


    https://www.atr.org/norquist-stateme...-v-wayfair?amp
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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    The Court stated, “Because the physical presence rule of Quill is unsound and incorrect,” Quill and Bellas were overruled. The Court added, “The physical presence rule has long been criticized as giving out-of-state sellers an advantage. Each year, it becomes further removed from economic reality and results in significant revenue losses to the States. These critiques underscore that the rule, both as first formulated and as applied today, is an incorrect interpretation of the Commerce Clause.”

    Vis-à-vis Quill, the Court stated that it “creates rather than resolves market distortions. In effect, it is a judicially created tax shelter for businesses that limit their physical presence in a State but sell their goods and services to the State’s consumers.” It added that Quill “imposes the sort of arbitrary, formalistic distinction that the Court’s modern Commerce Clause precedents disavow in favor of ‘a sensitive, case-by-case analysis of purposes and effects,’ West Lynn Creamery, Inc. v. Healy, 512 U. S. 186, 201.”


    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32131...y-hank-berrien
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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    Here is the SCOTUS opinion: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...7-494_j4el.pdf

    Sensible decision. I can't believe it took this many years of online commerce to address this.

    Interesting split on the decision and dissent as well.

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    It pisses me off when I order something online or through Amazon Prime and it's shipped from another state than Indiana and I pay sales tax because they have a distribution center in Indiana.
    Originally Posted by littlelady View Post
    I just reported you. You are one scary individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustACitizen View Post
    Sensible decision.


    yeah why is that smart guy
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    yeah why is that smart guy
    Ask me again after you've read the actual SCOTUS decision and not some bias-confirming propaganda piece.

    I don't expect you to bother (much less understand even if you made an attempt), so I'm sure I'll not hear from you again.

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    If I may ...

    So now, SCOTUS has solidified taxation without representation. These businesses, with no presence in a given state, will now be forced to collect sales taxes to a state where they have no political say whatsoever. If I were an e-commerce business, if forced to collect, I would bill for my sales tax collection services equal to that of any sales tax due to a demanding state.
    If the military wanted you to have a spouse, or family, they would have issued you one.

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    yeah...this has to be a good ruling....just great..


    At the same time, the ruling means that online retailers — large and small — will soon have to comply with nearly 10,000 different tax jurisdictions across the country in the 45 states that impose sales taxes. That means different rates, varying definitions of products, and a variety of exemptions. The resulting complexity is mind-boggling.
    https://www.investors.com/politics/e...net-sales-tax/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    yeah...this has to be a good ruling....just great..




    https://www.investors.com/politics/e...net-sales-tax/
    Ahhhhhh.. just a small update on Peachtree...
    Originally Posted by littlelady View Post
    I just reported you. You are one scary individual.

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    Perhaps if folks paid the tax due to local states as you’re required to do on “tax free” purchases, you wouldn’t have the government having to step in and fix the problem.

    I know you people are law & order types and constantly whine that “we are a nation of laws and not of men.” Why have you been shirking your patriotic duty to pay sales taxes?

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