George Will: Vote against the GOP this November

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Ryan traded his political soul for . . . a tax cut. He who formerly spoke truths about the accelerating crisis of the entitlement system lost everything in the service of a president pledged to preserve the unsustainable status quo.

Ryan and many other Republicans have become the president’s poodles, not because James Madison’s system has failed but because today’s abject careerists have failed to be worthy of it.
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The Republican-controlled Congress, which waited for Trump to undo by unilateral decree the border folly they could have prevented by actually legislating, is an advertisement for the unimportance of Republican control.
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Meaningless noise is this administration’s appropriate libretto because, just as a magnet attracts iron filings, Trump attracts, and is attracted to, louts.

In today’s GOP, which is the president’s plaything, he is the mainstream. So, to vote against his party’s cowering congressional caucuses is to affirm the nation’s honor while quarantining him. A Democratic-controlled Congress would be a basket of deplorables, but there would be enough Republicans to gum up the Senate’s machinery, keeping the institution as peripheral as it has been under their control and asphyxiating mischief from a Democratic House.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...08400242c2e_story.html?utm_term=.285eaa32fd38
 
PsyOps

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...08400242c2e_story.html?utm_term=.285eaa32fd38

In today’s GOP, which is the president’s plaything, he is the mainstream. So, to vote against his party’s cowering congressional caucuses is to affirm the nation’s honor while quarantining him. A Democratic-controlled Congress would be a basket of deplorables, but there would be enough Republicans to gum up the Senate’s machinery, keeping the institution as peripheral as it has been under their control and asphyxiating mischief from a Democratic House.
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Will has lost his ever-loving mind.
 
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JustACitizen said:
Gosh, I thought it was generally a good thing to put country above party. I guess it depends on the party.
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Will you explain how Will is putting country before party with his comments? What I see is he is throwing his principles in the crapper because he hates Trump. Will is a conservative calling for democrat control in congress - the party that has gone so far left that it literally scares me. This isn't about republicans or democrats, this is about Trump and people like Will's loathing for him; that they will throw away their principles to see him lose. Maher calling for complete economic crash just to see Trump lose; even if the people have to suffer. These people have lost their sanity. A conservative wishing for democrat control just to see one guy fail; this coming from someone that I thought was an intellectual giant. He has earned my contempt for him and some.
 
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Songfourone said:
So Obama was Bush's legacy...

Who will be Trumps legacy?
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I think you not get it. Obama is a result of Bush's failures. Trump is a result of Obama's failures. While that's a pretty simplistic way of putting things, it holds some large grains of truth to it.

Trump was more an answer to an establishment that no longer represents we - THE PEOPLE. And it's not about Trump - the man. Trump's election was a message to the establishment that we are done with them. We want REAL change in government. And this has started a movement of tons of outsiders, on both sides of the political aisle, running for offices up and down the spectrum.

THAT will likely be Trump's legacy. Getting people outside the inner politics in Washington to take office. I expect that, if Trump loses in 2020 he will lose to another outsider. I am fed up with being told a president has to fit some sort of political norm, that they have to behave a certain way, that they have to pander to this or that, that they have to adhere to some bull#### PC standard... Like Trump or not, he is getting things done; things that he promised he would do. And he's in our faces about it, regardless of who it might offend. I like that. I like the transparency. I may not appreciate every word Trump says, but he speaks for the ordinary citizen, on our terms. And the more hate you people on the left spew in his direction the more I like the guy. So, keep up the good work. :yay:
 
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How anyone so-called conservative can vote Democrat is beyond me. These buffoons now incorporate socialism and communism into their agenda.
 
Merlin99

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PsyOps said:
I think you not get it. Obama is a result of Bush's failures. Trump is a result of Obama's failures. While that's a pretty simplistic way of putting things, it holds some large grains of truth to it.

Trump was more an answer to an establishment that no longer represents we - THE PEOPLE. And it's not about Trump - the man. Trump's election was a message to the establishment that we are done with them. We want REAL change in government. And this has started a movement of tons of outsiders, on both sides of the political aisle, running for offices up and down the spectrum.

THAT will likely be Trump's legacy. Getting people outside the inner politics in Washington to take office. I expect that, if Trump loses in 2020 he will lose to another outsider. I am fed up with being told a president has to fit some sort of political norm, that they have to behave a certain way, that they have to pander to this or that, that they have to adhere to some bull#### PC standard... Like Trump or not, he is getting things done; things that he promised he would do. And he's in our faces about it, regardless of who it might offend. I like that. I like the transparency. I may not appreciate every word Trump says, but he speaks for the ordinary citizen, on our terms. And the more hate you people on the left spew in his direction the more I like the guy. So, keep up the good work. :yay:
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I disagree that Trump was a response to Obama, at least in large part. I think he's a reaction to the ineffectual tea party congressmen, after all the work of getting them elected they turned around and became run of the mill go along to get along party disciples. Trump had proven that he's going to do things his way regardless of party politics, added to that was he was running against one of the lamest candidates available. I still don't like the guy personally, I find him to be annoying and uncouth, but I'm al for giving his ideas a try. At the very least they aren't some intellectual science experiment like the last administration.
 
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PsyOps said:
I think you not get it. Obama is a result of Bush's failures. Trump is a result of Obama's failures. While that's a pretty simplistic way of putting things, it holds some large grains of truth to it.

Trump was more an answer to an establishment that no longer represents we - THE PEOPLE. And it's not about Trump - the man. Trump's election was a message to the establishment that we are done with them. We want REAL change in government. And this has started a movement of tons of outsiders, on both sides of the political aisle, running for offices up and down the spectrum.

THAT will likely be Trump's legacy. Getting people outside the inner politics in Washington to take office. I expect that, if Trump loses in 2020 he will lose to another outsider. I am fed up with being told a president has to fit some sort of political norm, that they have to behave a certain way, that they have to pander to this or that, that they have to adhere to some bull#### PC standard... Like Trump or not, he is getting things done; things that he promised he would do. And he's in our faces about it, regardless of who it might offend. I like that. I like the transparency. I may not appreciate every word Trump says, but he speaks for the ordinary citizen, on our terms. And the more hate you people on the left spew in his direction the more I like the guy. So, keep up the good work. :yay:
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Trump brought for the ugly under belly of this nation, not our better angels.
 
truby20

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PsyOps said:
I think you not get it. Obama is a result of Bush's failures. Trump is a result of Obama's failures. While that's a pretty simplistic way of putting things, it holds some large grains of truth to it.

Trump was more an answer to an establishment that no longer represents we - THE PEOPLE. And it's not about Trump - the man. Trump's election was a message to the establishment that we are done with them. We want REAL change in government. And this has started a movement of tons of outsiders, on both sides of the political aisle, running for offices up and down the spectrum.

THAT will likely be Trump's legacy. Getting people outside the inner politics in Washington to take office. I expect that, if Trump loses in 2020 he will lose to another outsider. I am fed up with being told a president has to fit some sort of political norm, that they have to behave a certain way, that they have to pander to this or that, that they have to adhere to some bull#### PC standard... Like Trump or not, he is getting things done; things that he promised he would do. And he's in our faces about it, regardless of who it might offend. I like that. I like the transparency. I may not appreciate every word Trump says, but he speaks for the ordinary citizen, on our terms. And the more hate you people on the left spew in his direction the more I like the guy. So, keep up the good work. :yay:
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OH PLEASE, you people act like Trump won by a landslide, here are the facts:

2008: Obama beat McCain by nearly 10 million votes, now that is a repudiation of the Bush era.

2016: Clinton beat Trump by nearly 3 million votes, but Trump won Pennsylvania by less that 1% so he won the electoral college and won the election.

So don't act like Trump had some mandate, we are right now in the best economy of at least a generation and his approval is not near 50%, there is NO excuse for it. I think he secretly hates the Republicans and is in the the longest con/troll job ever. He's destroying the party and making them look like hypocrites.
 
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Merlin99 said:
I disagree that Trump was a response to Obama, at least in large part. I think he's a reaction to the ineffectual tea party congressmen, after all the work of getting them elected they turned around and became run of the mill go along to get along party disciples. Trump had proven that he's going to do things his way regardless of party politics, added to that was he was running against one of the lamest candidates available. I still don't like the guy personally, I find him to be annoying and uncouth, but I'm al for giving his ideas a try. At the very least they aren't some intellectual science experiment like the last administration.
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I think you said, pretty much, the same thing I said, only different words. :shrug:
 
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