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    Quote Originally Posted by This_person View Post
    Yep, he grew up and threatened to run against Hillary Clinton for Senate, and suddenly died instead.
    She clicked her heels and he spiraled out of control and the sudden stop killed him.
    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    You have a psychiatric disorder. Get help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    It's not "billions and billons per year", it's a $10 billion project and if it's anything like the first lines (Nord Stream) Germany won't pay for all of it. 30% of Nord Stream was shareholder equity and the other 70% was from bank financing. With Germany's Nat. Gas needs increasing with nat. gas production from other European countries declining, it was their best choice. Especially since Germany (and the UK, France, Belgium, and the Netherlands) will benefit from lower gas prices. Russia wants to route through the Baltic Sea because of tensions with Ukraine and routing through there costs them more money than routing it via the Baltic Sea. Note that they've had 2 pipelines in place since 2011 and this project (Nord Stream 2) is running parallel pipe lines to double capacity.
    Whew!! Glad you cleared that up. See, I was under the impression that the billions & billions per year meant that, AFTER spending billions on the pipeline, then they would pay billions & billions per year for the gas as well. But now I understand, from your post; that they will be getting that gas for free...and i'm glad you cleared up that NONE of the shareholder equity is coming from German business people. And that other 70%?...I guess those banks are Swiss banks? Maybe Canadian banks? Maybe Cayman Island banks?...but NOT German Banks!! Why on Earth would German banks invest in...EU interests? And, unlike here in the suckazz USA, I'm sure the German peasantry won't somehow get stuck with the bill. I'm so glad you vaguely cleared up the point our President was making...

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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    She clicked her heels and he spiraled out of control and the sudden stop killed him.
    It seems more likely it was a bomb placed on board, although the FBI claims there was "suspicious boating activity" below the plane. I have no idea what that means, but the FBI thought so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapidus View Post
    I'm sure Trump will be charged with more crimes before Hillary.

    Please pin this for future reference

    Pinned, as requested.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by black dog View Post
    She clicked her heels and he spiraled out of control and the sudden stop killed him.
    Flying a plane that he wasn't qualified to fly and going into weather that he wasn't equipped to fly in and possibly high on dope helped a little.

    We will never know for sure, No autopsy and cremated so that he could not be exhumed, and his ashes tossed into the ocean.
    Old Teddy covered all the bases.
    He had experience at it after his own "accident" with Mary Jo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUSA View Post
    Whew!! Glad you cleared that up. See, I was under the impression that the billions & billions per year meant that, AFTER spending billions on the pipeline, then they would pay billions & billions per year for the gas as well. But now I understand, from your post; that they will be getting that gas for free...and i'm glad you cleared up that NONE of the shareholder equity is coming from German business people. And that other 70%?...I guess those banks are Swiss banks? Maybe Canadian banks? Maybe Cayman Island banks?...but NOT German Banks!! Why on Earth would German banks invest in...EU interests? And, unlike here in the suckazz USA, I'm sure the German peasantry won't somehow get stuck with the bill. I'm so glad you vaguely cleared up the point our President was making...
    Germany needs natural gas. They're going to pay Ukraine, Russia, and whomever else they can get it from. Why do we (Trump) care who a soverign country gets their gas from?

    One German back is involved in financing.

    I added a bit of information our President conveniently leaves out of his stances on a subject. I can see how dumbing it down may help you, but there's more information out there on this project if you're curious.
    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    If you don't like it, go #### yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Germany needs natural gas. They're going to pay Ukraine, Russia, and whomever else they can get it from. Why do we (Trump) care who a soverign country gets their gas from?

    One German back is involved in financing..
    And a former chancellor is on Gazproms BoD... But that aside, I hope to see a lot more US NG headed their way before too much longer. Or when the Russkies throw a hissy and turn off the spigot...

    You have to admit there is more than a certain amount of irony in the simple fact that we pay the lion's share of NATO costs...ostensibly to defend members against the Russian bear, whilst those same members are busy making cozy business deals that increase their dependency on ..Russia.

    Frankly, I'd like to see us draw down on our NATO role, if not abandon it altogether.
    Last edited by Gilligan; 07-11-2018 at 03:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    ostensibly to defend members against the Russian bear
    Yet Russia is part of NATO's Partnership for Peace and has been for 24 years?
    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_82584.htm
    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    If you don't like it, go #### yourself.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Yet Russia is part of NATO's Partnership for Peace and has been for 24 years?
    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_82584.htm
    Just another reason I feel the whole basis for staying in NATO and/or keeping it at is has gone away. Russia is NOT our friend..Russia is Russia's friend only and it's been that way since forever.

    I was both proud and somewhat saddened by the weak NATO response to events in Ukraine and Georgia a few years back. I watched naval vessels I helped to design and build for some NATO navies sally forth in a symbolic deployment of protest and opposition...and at the same time I realized how pitifully weak that response actually was.
    Last edited by Gilligan; 07-11-2018 at 04:04 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Yet Russia is part of NATO's Partnership for Peace and has been for 24 years?
    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_82584.htm
    That became worthless when Putin assumed office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    That became worthless when Putin assumed office.
    Pretty much...
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