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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Themselves?
    History is your friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    History is your friend.
    Yes, it is. History says internal uprisings brought forth by countries like Poland and Hungary due to Soviet treament (essentially reperations payments) caused civil unrest, leading to East Germany finally allowing citizens to visit West Germany. These uprisings started 2 years after Reagan told Gorbachev to "tear down this wall".

    https://history.state.gov/milestones...l-of-communism
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    Quote Originally Posted by transporter View Post
    Might want to check your slip...your ignorance and stupidity is showing.
    No, you've got that track well covered, sweetie....leaving no room for competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b23hqb View Post
    Would never had happened without the implosion of the old USSR by being bankrupted by the US.
    That. Or it would have taken far, far longer to occur...
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    Quote Originally Posted by b23hqb View Post
    Would never had happened without the implosion of the old USSR by being bankrupted by the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    That. Or it would have taken far, far longer to occur...
    Marxist and Socialist economic policies don't work. Coupled with bad decisions by the Soviets, simple econmics did the Soviets in more than anything the US did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Marxist and Socialist economic policies don't work. Coupled with bad decisions by the Soviets, simple economics did the Soviets in more than anything the US did.
    But it could have taken far longer to occur. ;-) Reagan put the match under it.
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    Reagan bankrupted the USSR. Trying to keep up with Star Wars broke the Soviet economy, leading to loosening their grip on the east bloc. They could not afford putting down uprisings in those countries, and those decrepit economies could not survive without Soviet assistance. That opened the floodgates for open defiance. History that is not taught in schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    Marxist and Socialist economic policies don't work. Coupled with bad decisions by the Soviets, simple econmics did the Soviets in more than anything the US did.
    Wow.

    Only took 70 years.

    Intentional effort to bankrupt the Soviet Union broke their lock on Eastern Europe.
    “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.".Daniel Webster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    Reagan put the match under it.
    How so?

    Quote Originally Posted by b23hqb View Post
    Reagan bankrupted the USSR. Trying to keep up with Star Wars broke the Soviet economy, leading to loosening their grip on the east bloc. They could not afford putting down uprisings in those countries, and those decrepit economies could not survive without Soviet assistance. That opened the floodgates for open defiance. History that is not taught in schools.
    The space race certainly played a part, but Reagan did not bankrupt the USSR, the USSR did. Reagan played a part by They, not the US, chose to ramp up defense spending to 27% of GDP, maintained a stagnant economy, and a ####ty political system. The elites got richer, and the poor got poorer. The USSR spending their money on defense (to match the US) and the space race, along with trying to centralize agriculture and production, meant food shortages and goods shortages. Young people began rejecting Socialist and Marxist economic policies, uprisings happened (due in part to Gorbachev's glasnost and perestroika policies), the Berlin Wall fell, and Yeltsin eventually took over after an attempted coup by the Communists.

    Simple economics made the USSR fall.

    This very common assumption that the West somehow succeeded in causing the collapse of the Soviet Union winning the Cold War is DEAD WRONG . The plain and simple fact is that the Cold War ended by its own accord not even by negotiation to the advantage of both sides, but because of sheer economics.
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/u...on-both-sides/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn View Post
    How so?
    You were not even born then. I was a rocket/missile propulsion engineer for Army and Navy systems. Those were some amazing years, working with Reagan's massive defense buildup and watching the Soviets fail to keep up. And oh my...the absolutely amazing lengths they went to to try and keep up....to this day I'm still astonished at the sheer depth and scope of their naval and aerospace programs of the time... ;-)
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