Bernie Sanders Ramps Up Amazon Battle With New Bill Demanding Living Wage for Workers

[GURPS]

According to the senator’s office, the legislation would create a 100-percent tax on large employers equal to the amount of federal benefits that the employers’ low-wage workers receive.

For instance, if an Amazon employee gets $300 in food stamps, Amazon would be taxed $300.

“At a time of massive wealth and income inequality, the gap between the very rich and everyone else continues to grow wider,” Sanders said in a statement.

“[Amazon CEO] Jeff Bezos, the wealthiest person on earth, has become a symbol of that inequality and greed,” the statement continued. “While Mr. Bezos is worth $155 billion and while his wealth has increased $260 million every single day this year, he continues to pay many Amazon employees wages that are so low that they are forced to depend on taxpayer funded programs such as food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing just to get by.”


Bernie Sanders Ramps Up Amazon Battle With New Bill Demanding Living Wage for Workers


Duh Bernie ..... there is an OVER Supply of labor

 

[transporter]

According to the senator’s office, the legislation would create a 100-percent tax on large employers equal to the amount of federal benefits that the employers’ low-wage workers receive.

For instance, if an Amazon employee gets $300 in food stamps, Amazon would be taxed $300.

“At a time of massive wealth and income inequality, the gap between the very rich and everyone else continues to grow wider,” Sanders said in a statement.

“[Amazon CEO] Jeff Bezos, the wealthiest person on earth, has become a symbol of that inequality and greed,” the statement continued. “While Mr. Bezos is worth $155 billion and while his wealth has increased $260 million every single day this year, he continues to pay many Amazon employees wages that are so low that they are forced to depend on taxpayer funded programs such as food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing just to get by.”


Bernie Sanders Ramps Up Amazon Battle With New Bill Demanding Living Wage for Workers


Duh Bernie ..... there is an OVER Supply of labor

Wow...that was [I]really[/I] stupid...you must have taken the same econ classes as Gilligan!! If there was an OVER supply of labor...the unemployment rate would be going UP...

If there was an OVERSUPPLY of labor, we would likely be in a recession.

Bernie's idea isn't very bright....granted...but two "stupids" doesn't make a "smart".

 

[CPUSA]

two "stupids" doesn't make a "smart".

Like whenever you post and the Sadpussi comments...


CRY HARDER SNOWFLAKE!!

 

[Gilligan]

Wow...that was [I]really[/I] stupid...you must have taken the same econ classes as Gilligan!! If there was an OVER supply of labor...the unemployment rate would be going UP...

If there was an OVERSUPPLY of labor, we would likely be in a recession.

Bernie's idea isn't very bright....granted...but two "stupids" doesn't make a "smart".

http://forums.somd.com/threads/3322...hen-Payments?p=5913905&viewfull=1#post5913905

 

[SamSpade]

If there was an OVER supply of labor...the unemployment rate would be going UP....

That only makes sense if all labor of every kind is exactly equal - and they're not.
In THIS country at least, there will probably never be an oversupply of labor for very unskilled, crap jobs that pay next to nothing and are miserable.
Hence - "the jobs that Americans won't work". I don't think there's been an oversupply of them in my lifetime.
There's always miserable work that people will refuse to do.

I don't get the hue and cry of "income inequality". A person who makes a LOT of money does not in any way affect MY ability to make money.
If you redistribute pay from the top brass to the lower paid workers - it's not much, and you sorely disincentivize the top brass from continuing on.

 

[Salmon]

Amazon makes a ton of money in this country. Their employees deserve a fair wage.

 

[Yooper]

Amazon makes a ton of money in this country. Their employees deserve a fair wage.

What a total non sequitur. First, so does Apple, so does [insert company name here]. Hopefully so. I'm betting the shareholders are happy.

Speaking of shareholders, if one wants to partake in the profits that are Apple, Amazon, etc., buy stock in said company (or a mutual fund that has said company's stock). [[Before you queue the "Well, I never! Who could possibly do that?" silliness, let me add that my wife and I invested a sizable percentage of our not-at-all-sizable military pay (back in the late 1970s and early 1980s when the military was paid at below poverty levels) deferring gratification so that we could live better down the road. If we could do it (and we weren't alone), so can folks today.]]

Second, Amazon employment is not compulsory. Don't like the pay, don't work there.

Third, "fair wage" is both code-speak and utterly meaningless. "Code-speak" in that what it really means is "capitalism sucks and we want to take someone else's wealth (yes, wealth we took no risk in creating, but still...) and allocate it the way we want." "Meaningless" in the sense of "who decides what 'fair' is?"

I would hope you feel it is at least a little bit hypocritical for a guy like Sanders (who's worth millions, but has done nothing but milk the system (same applies to his wife, btw)) to criticize Bezos with the "rising income inequality" canard. I'm no Bezos fan, but at least he's earned his cash.

SamSpade (post #5, above) gets it exactly correct (T/Y, SS!).

--- End of line (MCP)

 

[black dog]

Amazon makes a ton of money in this country. Their employees deserve a fair wage.

Then they shouldn't have accepted a job for the money they are working for.
Amazon makes and offer during your employment interview and YOU have the choice IF YOU accept that offer or not. Don't piss and moan about a contract that YOU agreed too.

It's really simple, don't like your income, get better education or training and apply for a higher wage employment.
So many of you young whiny baby's want everything handed to you.
Want to earn what your worth? Take an ASVAB test, see what you score.. Then Join the Air Force, Navy or Marines if they will take you.

 

[PsyOps]

two "stupids" doesn't make a "smart".

There's two of you?

 

[PsyOps]

Amazon makes a ton of money in this country. Their employees deserve a fair wage.

So, let's go through this. Grocery store.

Employees getting paid minimum wage of $7.50. Shelf stockers, floor cleaners...
Cashier get paid between $10 - $15.
Assistant manager gets paid $20+

Bump minimum wage to $15.
Bump cashier to $20 - $25
Bump assistant manager $30+

Side effect... Lay people off and/or raise the cost of products.

I make a fixed salary. Raising the minimum wage won't change my salary. EVERYTHING will cost me more, leaving less money in my pocket, causing me to adjust how I spend and save for my retirement.

Side effect... Stock market plunges. Everyone's savings plunges.

I can no longer afford to adopt pets, buy Christmas gifts at the level I could before, birthdays not, no more flowers for anniversary, forget long vacations...

Side effect... recession

If you think raising the minimum wage is some singular events that will benefit those at the bottom of the wage totem pole, you just don't understand basic economics. The trickle effect of forcing every business in the country double the minimum wage will end in a massive wave across the entire spectrum of our economy. For someone like me, whose salary will not change because of this, I will have to adjust every aspect of how I spend and invest. Millions will experience this impact.

 

[Hijinx]

I remember 1963 I was laid off, and I had a wife and apartment rent to pay, a car payment.
I looked for work and took any job I could get.
And there were jobs,, they just didn't pay much $1.35 an hour.
I took it. I didn't apply for welfare or unemployment, I took what I could get and I looked for a better job.

I worked there for 3 months and another , better job came along.
There is always work.
You may not like it, but ,it's there.

 

[my-thyme]

So, let's go through this. Grocery store.

Employees getting paid minimum wage of $7.50. Shelf stockers, floor cleaners...
Cashier get paid between $10 - $15.
Assistant manager gets paid $20+

Bump minimum wage to $15.
Bump cashier to $20 - $25
Bump assistant manager $30+

Side effect... Lay people off and/or raise the cost of products.

I make a fixed salary. Raising the minimum wage won't change my salary. EVERYTHING will cost me more, leaving less money in my pocket, causing me to adjust how I spend and save for my retirement.

Side effect... Stock market plunges. Everyone's savings plunges.

I can no longer afford to adopt pets, buy Christmas gifts at the level I could before, birthdays not, no more flowers for anniversary, forget long vacations...

Side effect... recession

If you think raising the minimum wage is some singular events that will benefit those at the bottom of the wage totem pole, you just don't understand basic economics. The trickle effect of forcing every business in the country double the minimum wage will end in a massive wave across the entire spectrum of our economy. For someone like me, whose salary will not change because of this, I will have to adjust every aspect of how I spend and invest. Millions will experience this impact.

Very well explained. How anyone can't understand this is beyond me.

 

[Kyle]

I remember 1963 I was laid off, and I had a wife and apartment rent to pay, a car payment.
I looked for work and took any job I could get.
And there were jobs,, they just didn't pay much $1.35 an hour.
I took it. I didn't apply for welfare or unemployment, I took what I could get and I looked for a better job.

I worked there for 3 months and another , better job came along.
There is always work.
You may not like it, but ,it's there.

Yeah but that doesn't work for all these millennial ingrates!

They all expect to be CEO right out of college, because they've been ejumacated and know everything.

 

[Hijinx]

Yeah but that doesn't work for all these millennial ingrates!

They all expect to be CEO right out of college, because they've been ejumacated and know everything.

I remember a guy I had a conversation with. An educated guy. Had all the sheepskins .
He was out of work, but he stated flat out, he would not go to work for under $100,000 dollars.
He moved away soon after when his house was repossessed.

 

[PsyOps]

Very well explained. How anyone can't understand this is beyond me.

Thanks. And I've never studied economics. It's really just common sense that if businesses are forced to change their bottom line, the cost shifts to the consumer. Now, if we really want socialism, government would not only force businesses to raise the minimum wage, they would also forbid them to fire anyone or raise the price of their products. The result of this is, small businesses would simply go out of business. This would have a massive negative economic impact in local areas. The more impoverished areas would be most impacted by this; the very people the left claim they want to help.

 

[GWguy]

I worked there for 3 months and another , better job came along.
There is always work.
You may not like it, but ,it's there.

I'm sure most of us here have done just that. You do what you need to do. If I wanted something, I never asked for people to get it for me, I found a way to make the money myself. Pride in self.

I happened to catch the tail end of the Dr. Phil show while waiting for the news a few days ago. There was a 16-17 y/o girl, the epitome of spoiled, living off her mother. When Phil suggested that she be an adult and get a job, she started whining like a 5 year old and crying openly. She wanted her fansy clothes, her phone, her BMW, but she wanted it handed to her, she didn't want to start at the bottom and work her way up. The mere thought of getting a job was just so repulsive to her. If I could have slapped her thru the tv I would have.

 

[Rommey]

Amazon makes a ton of money in this country. Their employees deserve a fair wage.

Can you define "fair wage"? I mean "fair" to you and "fair" to me could be two totally different things. Just trying to understand your philosophy of fairness. And do you think this fairness should be legislated (i.e., forced upon employers)?

Amazon makes a ton of money (which is the main reason for being in business...) and employs 550K people. The average hourly wage is $15, but the average for warehouse worker (i.e., unskilled, harder work environment, and likely a large percentage of the workforce) is $12.60. The Federal minimum wage is $7.50. It sounds like they are being fair at the current time.

 

[PsyOps]

Can you define "fair wage"? I mean "fair" to you and "fair" to me could be two totally different things.

Anything that will destroy the economy to the point everyone is poor.

 

[Kyle]

I remember a guy I had a conversation with. An educated guy. Had all the sheepskins .
He was out of work, but he stated flat out, he would not go to work for under $100,000 dollars.
He moved away soon after when his house was repossessed.

Fascinating isn't it?

 

[GURPS]

If there was an OVER supply of labor ... the unemployment rate would be going UP...

If there was an OVERSUPPLY of labor, we would likely be in a recession.

Every post you make is against anyone or any group that doesn't conform to your propagandist viewpoints.

behold dumbass ....

North Dakota during height of Fracking Production WALMART was OFFERING $ 17.50 or higher and hour because of a SHORTAGE Of People to Work ...

unemployment maybe @ 3.9% but if there was a SHORTAGE of workers for Disney Land Wages Would bew HIGHER to attract workers ...... the FACT wages have to be artificially RAISED By Gov. tells me there is no shortage of willing workers