I'm for this. Anyone care to try and talk me out of it?
If you cannot speak English, you can't vote in our elections
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transporter
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would rather convince you to go see a shrink or if you have already seen one to get back on your meds.
You are obviously becoming more and more irrational.
You are obviously becoming more and more irrational.
Hijinx
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In order to become a citizen you must learn to speak English and you must take an American history test.
If you are not a citizen you have no business voting.
It's pretty simple. even Tranny should understand it.
Exactly.
BOP
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Based on post #2 above, I'd say that's a swing and a miss.
This_person
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For no reason that I have been able to understand, we do not have a legally-recognized national language.
We would have to meet that wicket first.
You'd think so, wouldn't you?
Grumpy
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I'm in favor of that, too.
Why do you think only property owners have skin in the game?
This_person
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I really have no idea why anyone would NOT be.
littlelady
God bless the USA
If you can’t read a ballot in English, you shouldn’t be able to vote. Oh, wait, it will say press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, 3 for Arabic, 4 for illegal alien, etc., etc., etc. What ever happened to being an American citizen? Socialist communists are out of control. I left my heart in San Fransisco, and all that. What happened to being an American citizen? Is that out the window. I’m as mad as hell, and I am not going to take this, anymore. Push comes to shove, and all that.
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black dog
Free America
In a nutshell, here you go.
Renters by and large, come and they go. They could care less about the future of the town,
Renters have no skin the game as far as the town,city or county they pay rent in. One that pays property taxes and has skin in the game about what happens with the area where he owns property and lives.
When decision makers have skin in the game, when they share in the costs and benefits of their decisions that might affect others, they are more likely to make prudent decisions than in cases where decision-makers can impose costs on others.
Like being a downtown business owner, most folks aren't downtown business owners or business owners at all.. They don’t have a personal, direct economic stake in the downtown’s success or failure the same way a business owner does. They don’t run the risk of losing everything they’ve invested in and worked for if customers suddenly stop buying purses, ordering cakes or chugging beers.
Skin in the game makes it work.
This_person
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I think anyone that pays income tax, or buys a product and therefore pays business taxes, or is bound by laws that lawmakers make all have skin in the game.
:shrug:
Just me.
SamSpade
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The problem here is, not all - in fact, an AWFUL LOT - of decisions made at the national level have very little to do with whether or not you own property or in any way are vested in a region - having "skin in the game". What were the big issues in Trump's election? How many of them matter to you if you rent instead of own? Most of them, right?
Same goes for our Congress, which only infrequently has local concerns, even though they're supposed to be our representatives, more often than not they represent the PARTY of their region.
On the other hand, I've certainly got misgivings about "residents" such as college students who have zero connection to the region around the school other than possibly the drinking age and so forth, because in some towns - they're the biggest bloc of voters, but every couple years, half of them move away.
SamSpade
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Since only a citizen should be able to vote - it should be that way already.
Moreover, I'm in favor of what Larry used to say - if an entity cannot VOTE for a candidate, it can't contribute to them.
You can't pump millions to the campaign coffers of someone you can't cast a vote for, and if you're a union or non-profit or corporation,
you can't vote and hence, can't contribute. You can still donate to the party, but that's as far as it goes.
https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/educators/naturalization-information#eligibility_reqmts
Naturalization Eligibility Requirements
Before an individual applies for naturalization, he or she must meet a few requirements. Depending on the individual’s situation, there are different requirements that may apply. General requirements for naturalization are below.
•Be at least 18 years old at the time of filing Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
•Be a permanent resident (have a “Green Card”) for at least 5 years.
•Show that you have lived for at least 3 months in the state or USCIS district where you apply.
•Demonstrate continuous residence in the United States for at least 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400.
•Show that you have been physically present in the United States for at least 30 months out of the 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400.
•Be able to read, write, and speak basic English.
•Have a basic understanding of U.S. history and government (civics).
•Be a person of good moral character.
•Demonstrate an attachment to the principles and ideals of the U.S. Constitution.
https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote
You can vote in U.S. elections if you:
•Are a U.S. citizen
•Meet your state’s residency requirements◦You can be homeless and still meet these requirements.
•Are 18 years old on or before Election Day◦In some states, you can register to vote before you turn 18 if you will be 18 by Election Day.
•Are registered to vote by your state’s voter registration deadline. North Dakota does not require voter registration.
Who CAN’T Vote?
•Non-citizens, including permanent legal residents
•Some people with felony convictions. Rules vary by state. Check with your state elections office about the laws in your state.
•Some people who are mentally incapacitated. Rules vary by state.
Naturalization Eligibility Requirements
Before an individual applies for naturalization, he or she must meet a few requirements. Depending on the individual’s situation, there are different requirements that may apply. General requirements for naturalization are below.
•Be at least 18 years old at the time of filing Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
•Be a permanent resident (have a “Green Card”) for at least 5 years.
•Show that you have lived for at least 3 months in the state or USCIS district where you apply.
•Demonstrate continuous residence in the United States for at least 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400.
•Show that you have been physically present in the United States for at least 30 months out of the 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400.
•Be able to read, write, and speak basic English.
•Have a basic understanding of U.S. history and government (civics).
•Be a person of good moral character.
•Demonstrate an attachment to the principles and ideals of the U.S. Constitution.
https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote
You can vote in U.S. elections if you:
•Are a U.S. citizen
•Meet your state’s residency requirements◦You can be homeless and still meet these requirements.
•Are 18 years old on or before Election Day◦In some states, you can register to vote before you turn 18 if you will be 18 by Election Day.
•Are registered to vote by your state’s voter registration deadline. North Dakota does not require voter registration.
Who CAN’T Vote?
•Non-citizens, including permanent legal residents
•Some people with felony convictions. Rules vary by state. Check with your state elections office about the laws in your state.
•Some people who are mentally incapacitated. Rules vary by state.
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