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    She Said He Assaulted Her. Witnesses IN THE ROOM Said It Didn’t Happen. He Was Still Suspended.

    In a scathing ruling, Judge Donna D. Geck wrote how deficient the University of California-Santa Barbara’s (UCSB) investigative process was and ordered the school to reverse its decision against the male student.

    “Here, a university held a hearing to determine whether a student violated its student code of conduct,” Geck wrote. “Noticeably absent was even a semblance of due process. When the accused does not receive a fair hearing, neither does the accuser.”

    She contended that the male student, identified in court documents as John Doe, “was denied access to critical evidence; denied the opportunity to adequately cross-examine witnesses; and denied the opportunity to present evidence in his defense.”



    She Said He Assaulted Her. Witnesses IN THE ROOM Said It Didn’t Happen. He Was Still Suspended.
    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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    She must be believed... Even if it's all a product of imagination.
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    This #### needs to stop. Parents and students need to start holding these schools accountable and not allow them to run amok like this. They also need to hold these crazy girls accountable.

    Honestly, I don't know why anyone sends their kid to college anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    This #### needs to stop. Parents and students need to start holding these schools accountable and not allow them to run amok like this.


    part of the problem is Obama Era Title IX 'Dear Colleague' Letter From the Fed. [basically a veiled threat]


    https://www.weeklystandard.com/alice...le-ix-guidance


    The 2011 Title IX guidance documents that pressured colleges and universities to adjudicate sexual misconduct claims internally and, as was increasingly apparent in the years that followed, too often inefficiently and unfairly.

    Last SeptemberDeVos rescinded the “Dear Colleague” letter that put this process in place on college campuses. To replace it, her team gave administrators the option to adjust their procedures: Schools could use a slightly tougher standard of proof and a longer decision deadline if they chose. DeVos also promised a proper notice-and-comment process before issuing any binding guidance down the road.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...scinded-243016

    The document allows schools to use a higher standard of proof in campus disciplinary proceedings related to sexual violence, altering one of the most hotly debated elements of the Obama-era guidance. Instead, schools can opt to use a higher standard of proof — known as “clear and convincing evidence.”

    Attorneys for the accused have said too often that the Obama-mandated standard, known as “preponderance of evidence," or “more likely than not,” undermined the due process rights of the accused. That standard is lower than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard common in criminal trials.

    In another new element, the new instructions will allow campuses to provide mediation in sexual assault cases if both sides agree to it — an option not permitted under the Obama-era guidance which pushed school leaders to combat sexual harassment, including sexual violence.








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    We’re tempted to suggest a conspiracy here — but it’s just liberals agreeing yet again that conservatives have hidden, evil motives, because modern liberals simply can’t conceive of any other reason to disagree with the liberal consensus.

    “Moral precepts are constant through the ages and not obedient to circumstances.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by GURPS View Post
    part of the problem is Obama Era Title IX 'Dear Colleague' Letter From the Fed. [basically a veiled threat]






    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...scinded-243016

    The document allows schools to use a higher standard of proof in campus disciplinary proceedings related to sexual violence, altering one of the most hotly debated elements of the Obama-era guidance. Instead, schools can opt to use a higher standard of proof — known as “clear and convincing evidence.”

    Attorneys for the accused have said too often that the Obama-mandated standard, known as “preponderance of evidence," or “more likely than not,” undermined the due process rights of the accused. That standard is lower than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard common in criminal trials.

    In another new element, the new instructions will allow campuses to provide mediation in sexual assault cases if both sides agree to it — an option not permitted under the Obama-era guidance which pushed school leaders to combat sexual harassment, including sexual violence.








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    But------------but-----but women want to be treated as equals.

    Unless it's a sexual allegation, then they are the only truth tellers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
    This #### needs to stop. Parents and students need to start holding these schools accountable and not allow them to run amok like this. They also need to hold these crazy girls accountable.

    Honestly, I don't know why anyone sends their kid to college anymore.
    Sexual assault allegation is pretty damning. Most just want it done with so they happily move on to another school the limit the exposure.

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